DMN: SMU Meets With Doherty

[The XtC]

[quote="SMU Football Blog"][quote="The XtC"][quote="mrydel"]I want Rob Evans[/quote]

Never say I never gave you anything.[/quote]

An XTC sighting? The first in a week.[/quote]

Yeah, and? I said most of what I had to say already, and as I read the board the last few days I realized that the rest of it doesnt matter. Mostly I'd just be repeating what I've said for months, and I didnt feel like arguing with people who were going to believe what they wanted to, regardless.

I wish Coach Evans the best of luck. Its going to be a hard road to make SMU a winner again, and its not going to happen overnight. Hopefully they'll give him more than 2 years to do it, because things may get worse before they get better.

I wish Jimmy Tubbs the best of luck. I'm not in any way defending the mans job performance, because the team didnt perform well under him. There is no excuse for losing to Louisiana-Monroe or being swept by Tulsa. But, he derserved to be treated better than this. No amount of losing should bring someone this kind smear job to their reputation. Jimmy wasted his loyalty on people who stabbed him in the back.

The way this was handled has been an embarrassment to the University, and everyone associated with it. No one comes out of this clean, not Tubbs, or Williams, or Copeland, or Turner. I've never seen an institution that seemed to take such perverse pride in damaging itself.

Thats about it, in a nutshell. Was there something else you wanted me to say?

[The XtC]

[quote="couch 'em"]a 6 pack of guiness says we hire Doherty..........[/quote]

Make it Heneken or Rolling Rock.

[BigEasyPony]

To think Doherty won't get in the door to Dallas area recruits borders on laughable. It may take some time for Doherty to to be accepted by the DISD coaches, but all Doherty has to do is get his buddy MJ to make a phone call or show up for a basketball camp and they'll warm up to him real quick.

[Hoop Fan]

I take it very plainly that XTC is still not hearing of any major violations forthcoming regarding Tubbs. And I guess you doubters can guage the validity of his comments based on whether Evans is named as the coach.
I wouldnt bet against Evans right now. For all the mishandling, hiring Evans would be prudent at this point.

[Hoop Fan]

To think Doherty won't get in the door to Dallas area recruits borders on laughable. It may take some time for Doherty to to be accepted by the DISD coaches, but all Doherty has to do is get his buddy MJ to make a phone call or show up for a basketball camp and they'll warm up to him real quick.

there might be a little something to the MJ connection but lets not hire a guy because he knows someone famous. Now, if Jeffrey Jordan would come to SMU to play, that might mean something. Apparently Jordans son is showing D-1 potential, but will probably go high D-1 because of his name.

[mrydel]

I want Rob Evans

Never say I never gave you anything.

An XTC sighting? The first in a week.

Yeah, and? I said most of what I had to say already, and as I read the board the last few days I realized that the rest of it doesnt matter. Mostly I'd just be repeating what I've said for months, and I didnt feel like arguing with people who were going to believe what they wanted to, regardless.

I wish Coach Evans the best of luck. Its going to be a hard road to make SMU a winner again, and its not going to happen overnight. Hopefully they'll give him more than 2 years to do it, because things may get worse before they get better.

I wish Jimmy Tubbs the best of luck. I'm not in any way defending the mans job performance, because the team didnt perform well under him. There is no excuse for losing to Louisiana-Monroe or being swept by Tulsa. But, he derserved to be treated better than this. No amount of losing should bring someone this kind smear job to their reputation. Jimmy wasted his loyalty on people who stabbed him in the back.

The way this was handled has been an embarrassment to the University, and everyone associated with it. No one comes out of this clean, not Tubbs, or Williams, or Copeland, or Turner. I've never seen an institution that seemed to take such perverse pride in damaging itself.

Thats about it, in a nutshell. Was there something else you wanted me to say?

You are talking like Evans is a done deal which I certainly hope is true. I have felt that he was number 1 from the beginning but Orisini needed to do due diligence in opening up the interviews and apparently even using the search committee for a change. Have you heard anything definite on Evans? I trust your word and appreciate your gift if true.

[DanFreibergerForHeisman]

Doherty is going to do wonders for SMU! I can't wait until we hire him!

Can you imagine the crowds at Moody (for a couple of years before we get our new modern 12,000 seat arena built) when people around Dallas hear Michael Jordan will be there?

I think the Doherty hiring is the beginning of a wonderful new era in SMU BASKETBALL - especially if he can specialize in teaching Bamba (or at least bringing in an assistant who specializes in teaching big men)!!!!

20 wins next season? Definitely a possiblity with Doherty. This is going to be awesome.

GO PONIES!

[SMU Football Blog]

Thats about it, in a nutshell. Was there something else you wanted me to say?

Rarely suggest anyone should or should not say anything. Just noticed you hadn't been around in exactly a week.

[gostangs]

I think its the violations that almost happened we won't be hearing about.

Agree with the various posters that are excited - Doh or Evans feel MUCH better then anything we have had in 20 years. The key to the surrounding cast has nothing to do with DISD coaches who can do NOTHING for us anyway. Those guys pulled some political muscle with Tubbs and a desperate AD took the bait.

Anyone who thinks the DISD crowd can do anything for us is out of touch and probably over 12 - the real basketball talent going forward is mined at the cLub level and that is where our new assistant coachs better be spending their time.

We get any traction at all and the DISD fossils will be calling for tickets.

[gomemphistigers1]

i would like to share a story you guys might find relevant.

Larry Finch was a GREAT player at the UofM (took us to the '73 title game)...he came back in the early eighties as an assistant coach...and when Dana Kirk was fired Larry was hired as head coach...he was VERY popular...he became the all-time winningest coach in our history...problem was Larry became to dependant on Memphis recruits...Memphis area high school coaches basicly ran our progam...in the mid 90's our admin became fed up and Larry was forced to retire...local high school coaches were outraged...eventuly John Calipari was hired...the first thing he did was go and get a recruiting class without a single Memphis player on it...he then got D Wagner out of NJ...then Rod Carney out of Indy...and Darius Washington out of Florida...he proved we didn't need Memphis players to be successful...then...the Memphis players started comming back...players like Shawne Williams and Andre Allen this year.

i think this is somewhat like SMU's situation...whoever you bring in needs to be a NATIONAL recruiter...if not SMU will always be at the whim of Dallas high school coaches.

just thought i would share that.

Go Tigers!!!
Drew

[RGV Pony]

It's nice to see a conference mate here on our board. Welcome, guy from Memphis.

It's doubly nice to see someone who supports Memphis bball show a little humility and dare I say compassion when discussing other CUSA schools.

[ponydawg]

per calvin watkins on the blog:
"But seriously, I think SMU is looking at several recognizable coaches. Getting a head coach with a "name" seems to be the path president Gerald Turner is headed."

[EastStang]

20 years ago Coach Bliss was the coach and we were on the road to a temporary #1 ranking and an NCAA invite. So, I guess you mean in the last 15 years. John Shumate was a big name coach who came here with great fanfare and didn't win. Mike Dement came from a winning program was a Coach K disciple, he flamed out. Jimmy Tubbs was a local hero of sorts in the high school ranks and coached for OU in addition to SMU. Dougherty (or Doherty??) would be a big name, no doubt about it. Evans would be a little further under the radar. Either one could be fine coaches. Will they do fine here, I'll certainly want to give them that chance, too bad the administration and the DISD coaches won't.

[BigEasyPony]

Neither Doherty or perhaps even Evans (though he is unemployed) would accept the SMU job unless they were convinced SMU is going to make a greater institutional commitment to the program. There is no way Doherty would make the jump from FAU unless he were promised by Orsini and Turner that SMU will make the needed renovations to Moody and other improvements. Additionally, SMU would be required to pay a higher salary in order to lure Doherty to SMU as well as allocate more $ for his assistant coaches. That is the primary reason I am for SMU hiring an established HC. This would force SMU's hand to get with the program and start fielding a winner. Then of course it would be up to the coaching staff to recruit better players and start coaching our kids better to start playing winning basketball.

[Hoop Fan]

Neither Doherty or perhaps even Evans (though he is unemployed) would accept the SMU job unless they were convinced SMU is going to make a greater institutional commitment to the program. There is no way Doherty would make the jump from FAU unless he were promised by Orsini and Turner that SMU will make the needed renovations to Moody and other improvements. Additionally, SMU would be required to pay a higher salary in order to lure Doherty to SMU as well as allocate more $ for his assistant coaches. That is the primary reason I am for SMU hiring an established HC. This would force SMU's hand to get with the program and start fielding a winner. Then of course it would be up to the coaching staff to recruit better players and start coaching our kids better to start playing winning basketball.

huh? You sure are giving Florida Atlantic U. alot of credit for being a job worth having. I would say having the FAU job is about the same as being unemployed. It does not give Doherty much leverage in making demands at all. We can probably double his salary without even sneezing.