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Re: Realignment Update

Postby max the wonder dog » Sun Jul 16, 2023 1:09 pm

Dan Patrick says SMU and SDSU move to PAC 12 likely. Boise State and UNLV maybes.

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/dan-patrick-smu-and-sdsu-to-the-pac-12-is-likely-boise-state-and-unlv-maybe
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby mtrout » Sun Jul 16, 2023 1:27 pm

Dan Patrick said this like the beginning of last week. These news sites are so lazy. I'm waiting for the 10 articles this week talking about realignment announcement due to Pac12 Media Day.

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Re: Realignment Update

Postby SMUstang » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:15 am

So what is the PAC going to do for media day? I'm betting they go ahead and admit SDSU for 2024, extend their current media contract 1 more year, prepare to admit SMU in 2025, and continue to negotiate their long term media contract.
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby Topper » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:43 am

SMUstang wrote:So what is the PAC going to do for media day? I'm betting they go ahead and admit SDSU for 2024, extend their current media contract 1 more year, prepare to admit SMU in 2025, and continue to negotiate their long term media contract.

The current media deal is with Fox and ESPN. Those networks have already negotiated deals with other conferences for the following year based on OU, UT, USC and UCLA all going to new conferences. It is impossible to exentd the current deal for another year given those circumstances.
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby mtrout » Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:56 pm

SMUstang wrote:So what is the PAC going to do for media day? I'm betting they go ahead and admit SDSU for 2024, extend their current media contract 1 more year, prepare to admit SMU in 2025, and continue to negotiate their long term media contract.

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Re: Realignment Update

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Re: Realignment Update

Postby Water Pony » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:12 pm



The above article is encouraging and the following article would be further support for what might be his thinking and a reason why it has been delayed. :?

Is the below article what George Kliavkoff is hoping for … to fill an inside straight? :twisted:

https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/2023/0 ... otiations/
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby mtrout » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:07 pm

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a merry Christmas. Pac12 media day is going to be another dud.
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby Topper » Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:14 am

Follow the money. Amazon, Apple and Google are sitting on trillions of dollars in capitalization. ESPN has flirted with bankruptcy and is laying people off. Some partnership between the old media conglomerates and the new technologies money might save ESPN. I can see the Big 12 being forced into re-negotiating their deal before this is over unless ESPN can tap into the big money.
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby Dukie » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:59 am

Topper wrote:Follow the money. Amazon, Apple and Google are sitting on trillions of dollars in capitalization. ESPN has flirted with bankruptcy and is laying people off. Some partnership between the old media conglomerates and the new technologies money might save ESPN. I can see the Big 12 being forced into re-negotiating their deal before this is over unless ESPN can tap into the big money.

We're all dealing with a lot of conjecture and hypotheticals, of course, but *if* something like this new media landscape comes into being quickly, those who are currently locked into deals (ACC is locked for the longest, but others are as well), it will very much depend on the fine print of the contracts as to whether the Big 12 or anyone else *can* renegotiate even if they want to or feel they need to. I would suspect their current media partners have included language that lets successors continue to control things for the duration of the current contracts.
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby Topper » Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:46 pm

Dukie wrote:
Topper wrote:Follow the money. Amazon, Apple and Google are sitting on trillions of dollars in capitalization. ESPN has flirted with bankruptcy and is laying people off. Some partnership between the old media conglomerates and the new technologies money might save ESPN. I can see the Big 12 being forced into re-negotiating their deal before this is over unless ESPN can tap into the big money.

We're all dealing with a lot of conjecture and hypotheticals, of course, but *if* something like this new media landscape comes into being quickly, those who are currently locked into deals (ACC is locked for the longest, but others are as well), it will very much depend on the fine print of the contracts as to whether the Big 12 or anyone else *can* renegotiate even if they want to or feel they need to. I would suspect their current media partners have included language that lets successors continue to control things for the duration of the current contracts.

My point is that the money might not be there for their current contracts. ESPN might be an undercapiralized partner.
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby Dukie » Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:09 pm

Topper wrote:
Dukie wrote:
Topper wrote:Follow the money. Amazon, Apple and Google are sitting on trillions of dollars in capitalization. ESPN has flirted with bankruptcy and is laying people off. Some partnership between the old media conglomerates and the new technologies money might save ESPN. I can see the Big 12 being forced into re-negotiating their deal before this is over unless ESPN can tap into the big money.

We're all dealing with a lot of conjecture and hypotheticals, of course, but *if* something like this new media landscape comes into being quickly, those who are currently locked into deals (ACC is locked for the longest, but others are as well), it will very much depend on the fine print of the contracts as to whether the Big 12 or anyone else *can* renegotiate even if they want to or feel they need to. I would suspect their current media partners have included language that lets successors continue to control things for the duration of the current contracts.

My point is that the money might not be there for their current contracts. ESPN might be an undercapiralized partner.

Gotcha. I think the money will be there. In this scenario, the PAC would strike a novel and presumably richer deal. The benefit to ESPN, and to its future partners for that matter, would be to keep other schools locked in to the status quo, rather than cut them off somehow.
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby max the wonder dog » Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:39 pm

Canzano on media deal

"The Pac-12 Conference will not unveil the details of its media-rights deal on Friday in Las Vegas during Football Media Day. But the negotiations have been “advanced and productive” and a deal is in “the near future” per a conference source.

How far in the future?

Commissioner George Kliavkoff is expected to give an update on Friday during the conference’s media-day event at Resorts World Las Vegas.

“We’ve had very productive negotiations,” the source told me. “New entrants have come in. We’re feeling good and our schools will be rewarded for their patience.”...


Reminds me of a neighborhood Chinese restaurant I visited in the last century. Good food, but fortune cookies only had a few fortunes. At least twice a month I would get "Not now, but perhaps soon."
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby Oldmins » Tue Jul 18, 2023 7:03 pm

mtrout wrote:If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a merry Christmas. Pac12 media day is going to be another dud.


Hey, didn't one of our best alums use to say this on NFL broadcasts all the time? Hadn't thought of it for a while.
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Re: Realignment Update

Postby Dukie » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:17 pm

SMU Pom Mom wrote:I'm having a bad day. Someone cheer me up.

I'm sorry this is happening (as I'm sure you'd amend bad "day" to now include week, month, and possibly year). This is getting incredibly ugly; and ACC Commisioner Jim Phillips is also now a named defendant in one of the lawsuits. I hope this means the ACC will be rid of him.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... rn-scandal
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