From ACC

[max the wonder dog]

DMN says we're back in play

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/smu-mustangs/2023/08/23/smu-stanford-cal-acc-conference-realignment/?sailthru_id=64d6239f33d25a699f0fcaa6&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=College%20Sports%202023-08-25&utm_term=College%20Sports

[Graceland Tar Heel]

That was the game that made me want to be a Mustang. McIlhenny running the option in terrible weather against Marino in a classic venue. Damn, no scoring, but what an awesome experience.

The first CBS national telecast of a CFB game was the 1982 season opener: preseason #5 UNC at pre-season #1 Pitt. Pitt won 7-6. It was a classic.

[EastStang]

Was at that Cotton Bowl game. It rained, hailed, sleeted and snowed. Great win. Unfortunately, and Pitt fans will agree with this, the writers and coaches gave Joe Pa his pity national championship that year when we were the only undefeated team in the country.

[Graceland Tar Heel]

Was at that Cotton Bowl game. It rained, hailed, sleeted and snowed. Great win. Unfortunately, and Pitt fans will agree with this, the writers and coaches gave Joe Pa his pity national championship that year when we were the only undefeated team in the country.

They were voting for the endlessly professed 'clean' program, whose DC was arch pedophile Jerry Sandusky.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

They were voting for the endlessly professed 'clean' program, whose DC was arch pedophile Jerry Sandusky.

The NCAA on their high horse moral crusade hammered SMU
much harder than they did Penn State for hiding this monster.
Bunch of hypocrites!

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

This guy demeans SMU. I hope he is disappointed soon!

ACC expansion: Stanford and Cal (and SMU, really?) would add nothing to a proud conference
Author Mike DeCourcy
21 hours ago

It’s Stanford’s fault it’s so easy for me to explain to all of you why it’s such a terrible idea for the Atlantic Coast Conference to consider adding the Stanford Cardinals, California Golden Bears and – maybe, for some unfathomable reason, the SMU Mustangs

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... dqy66kzpqq

[indianmustang]

from reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/fsusports/comm ... d_the_acc/

[Topper]

This guy demeans SMU. I hope he is disappointed soon!

ACC expansion: Stanford and Cal (and SMU, really?) would add nothing to a proud conference
Author Mike DeCourcy
21 hours ago

It’s Stanford’s fault it’s so easy for me to explain to all of you why it’s such a terrible idea for the Atlantic Coast Conference to consider adding the Stanford Cardinals, California Golden Bears and – maybe, for some unfathomable reason, the SMU Mustangs

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... dqy66kzpqq

There is a lack of understanding of where SMU sits these days. The post-dp era is over and the NIL era has begun. Many of these armchair pundits don't get that. One thing that gives me hope is this: There is plenty of hate out there for SMU and that tells me one thing: We are on the verge of being relevant again. We're back.

[RunningStang]

Agreed and I think the armchair pundits need to “google” SMU’s history in the 1980s in what I now call the “ahead of its time NIL era…”:

- five straight football top 20 finishes in the AP poll
- 3 NCAA tournament appearances and 2 wins.


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[peruna81]

They were voting for the endlessly professed 'clean' program, whose DC was arch pedophile Jerry Sandusky.

The NCAA on their high horse moral crusade hammered SMU
much harder than they did Penn State for hiding this monster.
Bunch of hypocrites!

Don't think for a moment that the NCAA didn't try to dope-slap Ped State...In a typical text-book case of overreach, they began adjudicating penalties based on a criminal case that was under investigation, but not complete. The NCAA was popped soundly on the back of the hand by the legal community, and thus retired from investigation of said types of cases...thus UNC and Rape-U.

As far as Joe-Pa and their natty, the Sugar Bowl game was widely billed BEFORE being played as being for the NC. But yeah, Paterno's bleating from 1969 still echoed when SMU won the Cotton Bowl, and in the AP folk's minds. Still think Lance, ED, CJ and the host of defenders would have beaten Georgia OR PSU head to head....besides, we had Bobby Leach...

[Charleston Pony]

I think that SMU team that finished #2 put 14 guys in the NFL. You will never convince me they weren't the best team in the country that year

[deucetz]

I don’t get how people keep saying SMU is so rich. I understand that there are wealthy/billionaire alums but other colleges have that too. I understand how the rich school persona works when you are competing against most public schools or private schools within Texas but If SMU is so rich, why is the endowment so low? Even if you have rich alumni, are you telling me they will only donate for sports and not academics?

Compare SMU to reach schools and you will see how small the endowment is in comparison.

[EastStang]

Instead of endowing things, we build them. When we needed a School of Education, it was built and funded. When we needed new IPF, swimming facilities, tennis facilities, golf facilities, dormatories, the Bush Library, they were built and funded. Our alums are about building the best University now. Endowments will come as alums die off. We are a relatively new institution funded a mere 104 years ago. So, we really only have a few generations of bequests. And the Death Penalty hurt that effort as alums were tarred and angered by those scandals. If added to the ACC, we will be joined with great schools like UVA, Duke, BC, Syracuse, Miami, Cal and Stanford, which will only enhance our academic standing.

[max the wonder dog]

I don’t get how people keep saying SMU is so rich. I understand that there are wealthy/billionaire alums but other colleges have that too. I understand how the rich school persona works when you are competing against most public schools or private schools within Texas but If SMU is so rich, why is the endowment so low? Even if you have rich alumni, are you telling me they will only donate for sports and not academics?

Compare SMU to reach schools and you will see how small the endowment is in comparison.

Compound interest had a lot to do with the size of endowments. SMU was late to the game compared to many of its counterparts.

Tulane -- Founded 1834, Endowment ~$2 billion

Emory -- Founded 1836, Endowment ~11 billion

TCU -- Founded 1873, Endowment ~2.4 billion

Vandy -- Founded 1873, Endowment ~$10 billion

SMU -- Founded 1911, Endowment ~1.7 billion


Footnote 1: Endowment numbers compiled by quick Google search, so view them as directionally correct, not precise.

Footnote 2: SMU was a bootstrap startup. Vandy's initial endowment was funded by one of the wealthiest men in America. In 1915 Emory received a grant from Coca Cola founder Asa Candler to relocate to Atlanta, and Coca Cola corporate and affiliated interests have been pouring money in ever since.

[crazy horse]

They were voting for the endlessly professed 'clean' program, whose DC was arch pedophile Jerry Sandusky.

The NCAA on their high horse moral crusade hammered SMU
much harder than they did Penn State for hiding this monster.
Bunch of hypocrites!

Don't think for a moment that the NCAA didn't try to dope-slap Ped State...In a typical text-book case of overreach, they began adjudicating penalties based on a criminal case that was under investigation, but not complete. The NCAA was popped soundly on the back of the hand by the legal community, and thus retired from investigation of said types of cases...thus UNC and Rape-U.

As far as Joe-Pa and their natty, the Sugar Bowl game was widely billed BEFORE being played as being for the NC. But yeah, Paterno's bleating from 1969 still echoed when SMU won the Cotton Bowl, and in the AP folk's minds. Still think Lance, ED, CJ and the host of defenders would have beaten Georgia OR PSU head to head....besides, we had Bobby Leach...

Not to pile on the dead and guilty, or derail this thread, but there is even more to the Penn State story. From looking at the evidence, it is obvious that Joe "Pa" and probably the entire administration, was somewhat aware of Sandusky's activities, that was why he was quietly "retired" in the prime of his coaching life, yet had special status that allowed him to roam the campus, take "friends" to games, and shower in the locker room. - I'm trying to keep it clean. The details are horrific. There were rumors of many more folks, including some very powerful people involved, so it needed to be resolved quickly and quietly. Based on the denials, and the indifference to the horrible crimes by the students/faculty/alums/coaches, PSU should have been shut down until they realized that yes, there are things more important than Penn State football.

But that wasn't the only thing Penn State is known for. In a lesser known case, he covered for a serial rapist on the FB team. https://www.pennlive.com/crime/2022/04/espn-investigative-report-shines-a-light-on-little-known-story-of-a-serial-rapist-at-penn-state.html



They finally removed Joe's statue from the campus. I thought it should go in the library to remind everyone to stay silent.

Joe always wanted folks to believe that he ran a squeaky clean program - and people believed his shtick. That man protected a rapist, and enabled a pedophile to use Penn State for decades! And his comments about SMU are the stuff of legend among hypocrites. I truly hope somewhere deep down the man regretted all the evil he permitted, and sought forgiveness.

https://harrisonshome.blogspot.com/2023/02/is-smu-p5-worthy.html