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Re: From ACC

Postby max the wonder dog » Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:23 am

Graceland Tar Heel wrote:SMU fans: If this gets done, and at some point the ACC wants to add another TX school, which one would you prefer and why?


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Re: From ACC

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Re: From ACC

Postby Dukie » Mon Aug 28, 2023 10:27 am

max the wonder dog wrote:
Graceland Tar Heel wrote:SMU fans: If this gets done, and at some point the ACC wants to add another TX school, which one would you prefer and why?


Tulane.

Non-Big 12: Tulane.

If in a few years it became possible to entice anyone away from the Big 12? TCU. (Not out of any love or anything; just would be the best outcome for the ACC and worst for the Big 12.)
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Re: From ACC

Postby PonyTime » Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:01 am

max the wonder dog wrote:
Graceland Tar Heel wrote:SMU fans: If this gets done, and at some point the ACC wants to add another TX school, which one would you prefer and why?


Tulane.


Agree about Tulane. The road trip to NOLA is a lot of fun and I will miss it if we are no longer in a conference with the Green Wave. With that said - if Tulane were in the ACC they have got to find another place to play basketball. That Gym is way too small to house an ACC basketball program.

As far as Texas schools go, Baylor, TCU, Houston in that order. Baylor brings the best package of Football+Basketball.
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Re: From ACC

Postby smubrooks » Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:03 am

F**k tcu and meh on baylor. Adding Houston makes since for the conference footprint.
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Re: From ACC

Postby Charleston Pony » Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:11 am

Graceland Tar Heel wrote:SMU fans: If this gets done, and at some point the ACC wants to add another TX school, which one would you prefer and why?


If this does happen, and if the ACC wanted to expand further into Texas, the Houston market would be the obvious choice so I would think Houston would be the logical target with the most competitive athletics program. Rice and UTSA are the other large market programs but I just don't see them as good fits. I would love to have TCU as a conference mate again to enhance our rivalry with the toads, but that could limit the ACC to the DFW market. It would help with basketball travel and with other sports for that matter as schools could come to DFW and play both schools
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Re: From ACC

Postby Nedward » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:45 pm

It cannot be overstated how telling it is that espn is reporting on it and sticking on their front page stories.

I don't know what will happen but there has been one consistent throughout the expansion craziness and that's the role of the networks. If ESPN wasn't supportive of this move, would never have crawled out of the cradle.
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Re: From ACC

Postby SmooPower » Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:13 pm

Sources: ACC presidents to meet on conference expansion on Monday night

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-acc-pr ... 27541.html
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Re: From ACC

Postby Ccolley68 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:33 pm

I am just jumping in to the middle of this thing, but as an Aggie undergrad seeing what the SEC move did for us, anyone supporting SMU who doesn’t support this love to the ACC even if they give up all the money is a fool. The opportunity to be on a stage with a legit shot at titles, the exposure that comes with it, the teams that will come to Dallas to play, it’s an absolute no brainer. A&M’s move to the SEC, and then Manziel’s Heisman resulted in $750M in donations. While that large a number may not happen (though it could), if SMU goes to the ACC and really makes a splash, the big donors who have been sitting dormant for a while could erupt. I see SMU as very similar to A&M a decade ago. A proud program with solid history, and VERY proud alums, who just haven’t had anything to be excited about in a long time (pre DP for SMU, SWC days for A&M sans one B12 title in ‘98). Give them something to get excited about and be willing to put their money towards and it could be huge. I never donated to A&M after I graduated, but did after Manziel. I have never donated to SMU, but would in the ACC. Just being there means there is hope. And outside of the BIG and SEC, the only other conference that has any semblance of long term hope is the ACC. The PAC was always dying on the vine, even before USC and UCLA left. And I don’t care what the B12 teams and conference say, it is a weak conference with no long term hope, that bought itself a few years lifeline with its recent influx of teams. But Houston and Central Florida and Cincy and BYU don’t move the needle for anyone but their die hard fans. I live in Houston and no one here gives a crap about UH. It’s a pitiful commuter school in a scummy part of town that people who either screwed off too much on high school, had to pay their way, or screwed off at Big State U and had to transfer to even think twice about. My brother in law played football there, and my father in law played baseball there, and even they don’t really care. They might talk a little smack amongst eachother, and to me when the ponies play UH, but otherwise rarely care, and are always deservedly jealous of myself and my wife and her sisters who all went to A&M of getting to watch us play Bama and Auburn and LSU and Florida in big games that actually matter. Even now in the B12, who does UH play? Ok State, who has never done squat but be a fly in the ointment for the traditional B12 players before they all left, and who would leave for one of the 3 other conferences in a heartbeat. Tech, who is Ok State 2.0 with less history to hang a hat on. Kansas, a basketball school that would bolt to the BIG yesterday if given the chance. Colorado, who already left once, and saw the conference as the least ugly of the ugly broads when Goodnight Irene came on. K State and I State, they were always the red headed step children of the B12 and nothing is going to change on that front. Baylor, who despite a recent run of decent success but nothing real to pin on is traditionally one of the worst athletic programs in the entire country. The other PAC leftovers, who there is no history with and are Colorado 2.0.

As for what TX team I’d like to see get a shot if we make it to the ACC, I am also in the boat for Rice. Yeah, they got screwed in the SWC breakup and had to make some decisions on athletics, and chose to let football fall to the wayside while they put their money and resources into baseball and have maintained a national power there. But they already have a BIG stadium, campus is in a part of town you would actually go to see a game, and the people of Houston, despite it being a much smaller school do care about Rice. It’s almost like an ‘as shucks’ kind of thing with Rice. If UH does well in anything, other than alums, no one notices or cares, but with Rice, I guess because they have been so downtrodden for so long, when they do well at something people get excited around town. And likely because of its academic standard, the kind of folks who went to Rice are the kind of folks in positions to move and shake in town, unlike UH alums. Rice I think is similar to SMU in that regard, there is some history there for football, and there are some very proud Rice alums with wads of cash in town. There hasn’t been any reason to put any of that cash towards anything at Rice other than school and baseball since the early 90’s, but give them a big conference and a chance to win, and I think another sleeping giant could wake up. They may not have long sustained success, but they would be solid, like maybe a Northwestern where they have 4-5 years of middling, but will have that once or twice a decade where they make a good run, maybe even win the conference every once in a while. My grandfather played football at Rice back in the old SWC championship days and he would have been delighted to see them get another chance at some glory. And I know several clients and business associates who were Rice football players and are now very successful attorneys and other power broker type jobs, because are the types of people Rice ours through their program(s) who would definitely cough up some cash for a winning opportunity.

Sorry, read the whole thread and that’s just my take on the situation.
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Re: From ACC

Postby ShantyBoy » Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:54 pm

Same information as the Dellenger story. I would think from what the commissioner has said that the vote would not be taken if the ayes were not there. Fingers crossed!

https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/stat ... 65846?s=20

The full group of ACC presidents is expected to meet tonight and potentially formally vote on adding Stanford, Cal and SMU, a league source told
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@RossDellenger
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Re: From ACC

Postby ShorePony » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:11 pm

Curious, what is our notice period to the AAC for departure if this comes together this week?
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Re: From ACC

Postby SmooBoy » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:18 pm

ShorePony wrote:Curious, what is our notice period to the AAC for departure if this comes together this week?


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Re: From ACC

Postby Charleston Pony » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:26 pm

smubrooks wrote:F**k tcu and meh on baylor. Adding Houston makes since for the conference footprint.


You just have to hope SMU gets this ACC invite. That would really chap TCU and Baylor's arses. Houston, TCU & Baylor fans will all mock SMU for having bought their way into a Power conference but they will also realize the ACC is going to be the superior football conference. I expect there will be a great debate as to which is the superior basketball conference with both having some teams that will compete for national championships year after year. If it doesn't happen, at least the BMDs will have given it their best shot.
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Re: From ACC

Postby Red Dragon Coog » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:41 pm

Hahahahahaha SMU really told everybody that they will play for free like that's a normal thing. So desperate.
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Re: From ACC

Postby EastStang » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:42 pm

Just to remind everyone, the wife and son of the Governor of Virginia went to SMU. He went to Rice.
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