FSU: "We Never Said We Wanted to Leave"

[Dukie]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 932560007/

Translation: Damn, the B1G and $EC don't appear to want us.

[BUS]

Ask your Alumni to help. Less big buildings maybe. We are not building any more fountains... pretty as they are, we have enough.

[b_caesar]

Ask your Alumni to help. Less big buildings maybe. We are not building any more fountains... pretty as they are, we have enough.

Perhaps offer to give up some TV money, too? That seems to have worked out OK for us so far...

[Graceland Tar Heel]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 932560007/

Translation: Damn, the B1G and $EC don't appear to want us.

If they did not intend to leave ASAP, then suing was a huge waste of their own money. I think the BT realizes it gains next to nothing from having FSU unless FSU comes with enough other Southern ACC schools to matter. And the SEC already has UF, which is flagship and land grant and so always will be bigger in TV value. Neither is going to top put to 'save' FSU. And as childishly simple as many FSU fans are they even seem to have realized that the next Big 12 TV deal will be lesser. The Big 12 lost its far and away top 2 draws. Plus, FSU people have figured out that Utah is not happy with the Big 12, for several reasons, and will take an ACC offer if ESPN stops acting for the SEC against the ACC and so will fund the addition. Neither Arizona nor AZSt will want Utah to get the advantages of one agin being tied to CA, and they will want to follow Utah.

[SMU Pom Mom]

It's the gaslighting for me.

[giacfsp]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 932560007/

Translation: Damn, the B1G and $EC don't appear to want us.

So FSU has spent more than $3 million in legal fees for a lawsuit against the ACC to not leave the conference?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight............

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sport ... 353827007/

[MV pony]

And cost the ACC a similar amount defending FSU's BS.

[highlander]

We never said we wanted to leave -- we said we didn't want to stay.

[Dukie]

We never said we wanted to leave -- we said we didn't want to stay.

Or is it ΓÇ£we didnΓÇÖt want to not stayΓÇ¥?

[EastStang]

After we pummeled them, their lawsuit went into the crapper. Nothing they alleged made any sense at that point. We made them look stupid. As did almost every other team in the conference. They finished in last place and their stadium looked like a cemetery by end of the year.

[SEASPony]

I donΓÇÖt usually wish misfortune on our conference mates or rivals (the exception being TCU), but as they say, karma is a B.

[1983 Cotton Bowl]

FSU is exhausting. I can just imagine the BIG and SEC looking at all their antics and saying, "no thanks". They've made so many enemies.

[mustangxc]

I think it is a win for everyone involved including FSU. If UNC can rise along with SMU, Clemson, Miami, Syracuse, Duke, Louisville and FSU can rebound we can start to make noise as a league. Hopefully SMU puts a stamp on these playoffs by making a deep run.

[Dukie]

I think it is a win for everyone involved including FSU. If UNC can rise along with SMU, Clemson, Miami, Syracuse, Duke, Louisville and FSU can rebound we can start to make noise as a league. Hopefully SMU puts a stamp on these playoffs by making a deep run.

Agree an SMU run changes the narrative even further, and not just for SMU. ThereΓÇÖs a real chance to rekindle the conference spirit. And revenues.

[Graceland Tar Heel]

FSU is exhausting. I can just imagine the BIG and SEC looking at all their antics and saying, "no thanks". They've made so many enemies.

That is a good way to label FSU. It grows from the massive inferiority complex. FSU was originally the state U for girls. It only became coed because of WW2. So UF is both flagship and land grant and until Bobby Bowden had nearly 100% of the college sports fan attention in FL that was not located near Miami (Miami played in the Orange Bowl, maybe twice, before FSU ever had a single male student). And FSU grew largely by getting the children of new Floridians to go there. The kids from more established FL families went to UF and the newcomers and the children of those whose families had never before gone to college went to FSU. So in state U teams, UF was elite socially while FSU was nothing. To put it in TX terms, UF was UT, while FSU was Houston.

ACC membership began a massive change for FSU in those things. Rather quickly, it began drawing a larger number of top students and more professors from top PhD programs. It was able to win at state politics and get more funding for various academic areas. Its academic rankings began to rise. The bad thing from all that was that many FSU people began to think that they then had arrived fully and should be bowed to in all things. But FSU will always be silly, sad little brother to UF. No conference membership or TV money can change that. In fact, as TAMU will relearn, the worst thing for a long belittled brother school that greatly values sports successes to do is be in the same athletics conference with the super arrogant and dismissive Big Brother. The sad, silly little brother status is then always reinforced at every turn.