Cutting our losses with Tubbs

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A man overcomes the adversity presented in his life and succeeds in spite of that. He doesn't just "walk away" as you suggest. I am eager to see if Matt can overcome all the negativity surrounding him to be a contributor for SMU basketball. Many ponyfans, myself included, are rooting for you Matt.

[Hoop Fan]

Throw down on grandaddy all you want but Matt at least deserves a chance now that he is here. He's not the bad guy here - he didn't pick gramps - although he has enjoyed what gramps influence has done for him. I doubt seriously Matt is having much fun - you think he is Mr. Popular in the locker room? I doubt if he was even before all this crap - he being a rich boy who's grandaddy is a rich alum. I bet he is getting worn out in practice everyday........There are all kind of punishments. If Matt can take it and prove himself, fine. If not, what you are wanting will play out..............

huh? Why exactly does he deserve a chance? Is there some code that says grandsons of ex players deserve a chance? Hell, why not give him starting position for godsake? Since when should college basketball be fair? Would that be since Tubbs got canned?

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Throw down on grandaddy all you want but Matt at least deserves a chance now that he is here. He's not the bad guy here - he didn't pick gramps - although he has enjoyed what gramps influence has done for him. I doubt seriously Matt is having much fun - you think he is Mr. Popular in the locker room? I doubt if he was even before all this crap - he being a rich boy who's grandaddy is a rich alum. I bet he is getting worn out in practice everyday........There are all kind of punishments. If Matt can take it and prove himself, fine. If not, what you are wanting will play out..............

huh? Why exactly does he deserve a chance? Is there some code that says grandsons of ex players deserve a chance? Hell, why not give him starting position for godsake? Since when should college basketball be fair? Would that be since Tubbs got canned?

Its not a matter of being fair. If Doherty thinks Matt is a player and will be an asset to his team and locker room he will keep him. Why? Bc he wants to build a winner. Aside from you and the rest of Tubbs' extended family hating him, what reason is there to get rid of Matt. How does it benifit SMU to can him if he can play? It doesn't. Fair is a bunch of crap made up for people who can't handle reality. If he gets cut he gets cut. I'll let MD decide that though. Not your sour grapes.

[Danny Noonan]

I forgot again. Other than allegedly having an a-hole for a grandfather, what did Matt ever do?

Dont know for sure, what were the major infractions committed by Tubbs again? However, its fairly readily apparent that Matt is a rat and fed grandpa whatever information that led to all of this. I'm not saying Matt committed a crime, but life ain't fair now is it? Be a man Matt and walk away. i dont see how real teammates could trust the kid.

I must've missed the point that it became apparent? When did that happen. And don't come back with something like "When did it become apparent Tubbs....." We've been over that, and we're all waiting for the explanation. The topic for now is what evidence do you have, if any that Matt is a "rat."

[Hoop Fan]

A man overcomes the adversity presented in his life and succeeds in spite of that. He doesn't just "walk away" as you suggest. I am eager to see if Matt can overcome all the negativity surrounding him to be a contributor for SMU basketball. Many ponyfans, myself included, are rooting for you Matt.

Matt has the opportunity to succeed any place he likes. No one is restricting his opportunity should he have what it takes in basketball and "in life". Go to Baylor, TCU or maybe UNC Wilmington. But make no mistake, the high road in this case would be for Matt to get out of the way and leave SMU. May not be fair, but when you play a part in something like this, that is life.

[SMU Football Blog]

I forgot again. Other than allegedly having an a-hole for a grandfather, what did Matt ever do?

Dont know for sure, what were the major infractions committed by Tubbs again? However, its fairly readily apparent that Matt is a rat and fed grandpa whatever information that led to all of this. I'm not saying Matt committed a crime, but life ain't fair now is it? Be a man Matt and walk away. i dont see how real teammates could trust the kid.

Wow. Just . . . wow.

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A man overcomes the adversity presented in his life and succeeds in spite of that. He doesn't just "walk away" as you suggest. I am eager to see if Matt can overcome all the negativity surrounding him to be a contributor for SMU basketball. Many ponyfans, myself included, are rooting for you Matt.

Matt has the opportunity to succeed any place he likes. No one is restricting his opportunity should he have what it takes in basketball and "in life". Go to Baylor, TCU or maybe UNC Wilmington. But make no mistake, the high road in this case would be for Matt to get out of the way and leave SMU. May not be fair, but when you play a part in something like this, that is life.

What part did he play? I have not heard his name mentioned ANYWHERE other than from a couple of angry people on this board. Other than pulling something from where the sun don't shine, do you have ANYTHING resembling evidence or a source?

And for heaven's sakes, to think he might want to succeed at SMU bc he actually wants to be here. I would hate to have a guy on the roster who wants to bust his butt playing for the school he loves. I don't know Matt. Maybe he could give two [deleted] less about SMU, but maybe he does. If he is earning his spot here in Doherty's eyes then he has earned it in mine. Time will tell if he does in fact earn the right to wear the uniform.

[Hoop Fan]

I forgot again. Other than allegedly having an a-hole for a grandfather, what did Matt ever do?

Dont know for sure, what were the major infractions committed by Tubbs again? However, its fairly readily apparent that Matt is a rat and fed grandpa whatever information that led to all of this. I'm not saying Matt committed a crime, but life ain't fair now is it? Be a man Matt and walk away. i dont see how real teammates could trust the kid.

I must've missed the point that it became apparent? When did that happen. And don't come back with something like "When did it become apparent Tubbs....." We've been over that, and we're all waiting for the explanation. The topic for now is what evidence do you have, if any that Matt is a "rat."

wake up and smell the coffee. Dont hold your breath on that explanation either.

[Danny Noonan]

I forgot again. Other than allegedly having an a-hole for a grandfather, what did Matt ever do?

Dont know for sure, what were the major infractions committed by Tubbs again? However, its fairly readily apparent that Matt is a rat and fed grandpa whatever information that led to all of this. I'm not saying Matt committed a crime, but life ain't fair now is it? Be a man Matt and walk away. i dont see how real teammates could trust the kid.

I must've missed the point that it became apparent? When did that happen. And don't come back with something like "When did it become apparent Tubbs....." We've been over that, and we're all waiting for the explanation. The topic for now is what evidence do you have, if any that Matt is a "rat."

wake up and smell the coffee. Dont hold your breath on that explanation either.

Just as I thought, you've got absolutely nothing.

[SMU Football Blog]

[Hoop Fan]

i dont need anything, I didnt accuse Matt of any crimes or ncaa violations did I? What proof would there be or could there be genius? Matt whined to grandpa about playing time and who knows what else, grandpa took this and decided Tubbs was no longer the "right man" for the job and initiated the allegations and investigation. How much more clear could the situation be? Once again since you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension, I am not saying Doherty should kick Matt off the team necessarily. This should not be his problem. Matt should just be a big boy and leave. Its not that hard.

[DiamondM]

I forgot again. Other than allegedly having an a-hole for a grandfather, what did Matt ever do?

Thats all. Thats his one and only fault. Can't you see why we are so eager to banish him?

If we can banish someone for being an a-hole by 2 degrees of separation, is it okay if we banish a couple of bona fide a-holes in their own right? I can think of a couple that come to mind ...

[Stallion]

the mere fact that Williams got a scholarship to SMU shocked me and just about every one that follows recruiting in DFW-see Texasroundball.com comments if you don't believe me. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of a quid pro quo agreement between Tubbs and Max whether that be above board or below board I have no idea..

[Hoop Fan]

The topic for now is what evidence do you have, if any that Matt is a "rat."

HoopFan is really good at making up "credible hearsay" when it fits his argument. Don't bother asking him about it though, he takes it absurdly personal that anyone would ever dare to question him.

question me all you want, but at least comprehend the simplicity of what I have posted first. No crimes, no violations = no proof. Please show me where i accused matt of anything that would require or allow for proof? I might be wrong, Matt might actually be the best guy in the world and best basketball player, but he should leave anyway.

[DiamondM]

However, its fairly readily apparent that Matt is a rat and fed grandpa whatever information that led to all of this. I'm not saying Matt committed a crime, but life ain't fair now is it? Be a man Matt and walk away. i dont see how real teammates could trust the kid.

How can something be "fairly readily apparent?"

Also, HF are you going on some actual information on this? So far I haven't heard anything connecting Matt to this other than by being from the loins of Max's child.

You've never had a parent or grandfather do something that embarrassed you? That made you angry? That you disagreed with? That they thought was helping you but just made things a whole hell of a lot worse?

I normally respect your opinions, but you are just way off base here. Until you can come up with some evidence -- other than the blood that runs through Matt's veins -- that Matt and Max conspired with some sort of plan to bring down Tubbs and Matt had a lightbulb moment and said, "hey gramps, I know what you can do to get me some playing time from the unknowable new coach. JT has a weakness for springing for laundry detergent and sandwiches for the team, but until now has been held back by lack of fundage. Why don't you give him some money, he'll buy Bamba a burger and take the team to the Washeteria, and voila, the die will be cast."

There is just absolutely no legitimate reason for this venom. Rail all you want against Max, he's admitted to a role in this, but until you can say the same about Matt, please just keep it to yourself.