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by CalallenStang » Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:34 pm
mr. pony wrote:No comparison? Check enrollment at U of Miami. Check how long they have been a "football power". It's not so long ago they were a joke of a program.
I could be wrong, but something tells me that prior to their rise to power, they didn't get much attention either. But I didn't live in Miami at that time so I couldn't say for sure.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see us get coverage in the DMN. I think that just one page per game day would be sufficient. And I think it would help them sell papers to our 40,000 DFW alums. But right now, we just aren't making news.
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by jtstang » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:00 pm
mr. pony wrote:SMU deserves a prominent position - win or lose.
Why?
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by PK » Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:21 pm
jtstang wrote:mr. pony wrote:SMU deserves a prominent position - win or lose.
Why?
OK, for argument sake jt...Why not? 
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by jtstang » Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:56 pm
PK wrote:jtstang wrote:mr. pony wrote:SMU deserves a prominent position - win or lose.
Why?
OK, for argument sake jt...Why not? 
Well, given that these fools seem to think we "deserve" the same exposure as UT, it's because we don't have any skins on the wall. And if I'm making business decisions at DMN, I go with the demand.
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by Arkpony » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:51 pm
Here we go again..why can't you guys debate or discuss a subject witout resorting to name calling.."fools"??..geesh! Get a civil tongue!
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by PK » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:27 am
jtstang wrote:PK wrote:jtstang wrote:mr. pony wrote:SMU deserves a prominent position - win or lose.
Why?
OK, for argument sake jt...Why not? 
Well, given that these fools seem to think we "deserve" the same exposure as UT, it's because we don't have any skins on the wall. And if I'm making business decisions at DMN, I go with the demand.
Well, no one is saying we should necessarily get the same coverage as UT but hell, we have at least as many alumni as do some of the high schools they cover. Personally, I have no problem with the fact that at this time of the year we don't get any coverage as we have no high profile sports going on right now. However, if the DMN is going to cover college sports, there is no reason we should not get some consistent press. The fact of the matter is that the DMN claims the metroplex as their territory, but neither SMU nor TCU, for that matter, gets an appropriate amount of coverage during the year considering we are the Div-1 schools of the area. Now I know UNT is going to want a piece of the pie too, and that is OK, but from a historical point of view, SMU and TCU should get a lot more coverage than UNT and at least a pretty regular coverage just because we are the areas highest profile D-1 schools. Win or lose, it is still news, just as any of the pro sports are win or lose.
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by jtstang » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:35 am
PK wrote:Well, no one is saying we should necessarily get the same coverage as UT but hell, we have at least as many alumni as do some of the high schools they cover.
I disagree. That is exactly what those guys are saying.
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by PK » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:51 am
jtstang wrote:PK wrote:Well, no one is saying we should necessarily get the same coverage as UT but hell, we have at least as many alumni as do some of the high schools they cover.
I disagree. That is exactly what those guys are saying.
Sorry jt, I went back and read all the post on this thread and no where did I see anyone say SMU should get the same or more coverage than UT. All I see is people saying that SMU should get more coverage than what we are getting. As I said earlier, none of the Metroplex D-1 teams come even close to getting the coverage UT gets. It is understandable that UT would get lots of coverage as it is the biggest state university, but if the DMN is going to cover college sports, then it should cover all of it...especially the locals...win or lose, just like they do the pro sports...win or lose.
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by jtstang » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:56 am
PK wrote:Sorry jt, I went back and read all the post on this thread and no where did I see anyone say SMU should get the same or more coverage than UT. All I see is people saying that SMU should get more coverage than what we are getting. As I said earlier, none of the Metroplex D-1 teams come even close to getting the coverage UT gets. It is understandable that UT would get lots of coverage as it is the biggest state university, but if the DMN is going to cover college sports, then it should cover all of it...especially the locals...win or lose, just like they do the pro sports...win or lose.
PK, let me make this simple. I'm talking about mr. pony and McClown, and all I can say is you'd have to look further than this one thread. I thought you paid more attention than that.
The local teams don't get near as much coverage as UT because they don't have near as big an alumni base in Dallas, and their teams could not collectively hold UT's jockstrap. But there is coverage, some for every SMU game, win or lose as you say, so what's your beef with The Morning News? You're keeping some interesting company these days.
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by PK » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:29 pm
jtstang wrote:PK wrote:Sorry jt, I went back and read all the post on this thread and no where did I see anyone say SMU should get the same or more coverage than UT. All I see is people saying that SMU should get more coverage than what we are getting. As I said earlier, none of the Metroplex D-1 teams come even close to getting the coverage UT gets. It is understandable that UT would get lots of coverage as it is the biggest state university, but if the DMN is going to cover college sports, then it should cover all of it...especially the locals...win or lose, just like they do the pro sports...win or lose.
PK, let me make this simple. I'm talking about mr. pony and McClown, and all I can say is you'd have to look further than this one thread. I thought you paid more attention than that. The local teams don't get near as much coverage as UT because they don't have near as big an alumni base in Dallas, and their teams could not collectively hold UT's jockstrap. But there is coverage, some for every SMU game, win or lose as you say, so what's your beef with The Morning News? You're keeping some interesting company these days.
Well, I started this series with you "for argument sake". I would agree with you that statewide UT has more alumni...not so sure about metroplex wise. A very large percentage of the metroplex is now made up of people from other parts of the US and elsewhere who went to out of state colleges. Also, there is a large mass of folks in the metroplex who probably haven't even gone to college...much less UT. Yes, UT has a winning program as would be expected of the state's largest state college and people like to associate with a winner. I don't have a problem with that...and like I said earlier I don't have a problem with the lack of coverage right now since there is really not much going on. It certainly wouldn't hurt the DMN to do a little more in depth reporting...good or bad (any publicity is good) on SMU, but until we start winning on a consistant basis, that isn't going to happen and I understand that too. That doesn't mean they shouldn't or couldn't give us more coverage...now does it. After all, they publish a lot of crap that I can't believe anyone would be interested in, but they do it.
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by ALEX LIFESON » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:55 pm
I am in agreement with you PK. As for jtstang, and one or two others that are always trying to [deleted] on everything...............I frequently wonder if you really are SMU fans. Just go back and review your post history. It doesn't look like post from an SMU fan to me.
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by jtstang » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:03 pm
PK, I don't have numbers, obviously, but based on relative size alone, I have no doubts that UT alums outnumber SMU alums in the metroplex by fourfold. And my biggest problem is the statement, not made by you, that SMU "deserves" much more newspaper coverage. We've done nothing to "deserve" the coverage we get, much less any additional coverage.
And Alex, I'll take "I don't geve a rats @ss about your opinion" for $500. Obviously my willingness to look at this program and its coverage with a realistic eye makes me a much better fan than you will ever be.
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by ALEX LIFESON » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:16 pm
Hey jtstang, you can take your "realistic eye", and stick it up your punk @ss!
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by jtstang » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:35 pm
You're a real poster boy for an SMU education.
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