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by **EastStang** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:42 pm

Ludicrous is that the band that one of our QB's joined. Bennett recruited Meeks and Phillips. No one expected Phillips to blow out his shoulder his freshman year. Also, Bennett started his tenure with no QB's with any experience. Given that he has been recruiting with a losing record every year, and is just now getting a line which can protect a QB instead of folding like a deck of cards, its amazing he's gotten anyone to bite. He's playing the hand he's been dealt and doing adequately. If they improve every year, then by 2012 we'll be undefeated.

by **BringBackThePonies03** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:57 pm

Don't doubt this guy because of his size, there have been many short quarterbacks who have done wonders at the college level. Turner may be the next one of them, good luck to this QB next year and we are excited that he is a Mustang. GO PONIES!!!

by **Big10Ponyfan** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:23 pm

While the gospel according to Stallion should be viewed, it should also not be blindly accepted as the sole source as to whether the coaches have done the right thing. Heights, weights and 40 times are important tools but the question with any recruit is, "Can He Play?"

Let's just see how Turner's senior year goes, let him get on campus and then go from there. As we know, recruiting is not an exact science.

Oh, and if Stallion knows how the Turner family gene pool is set up, please let us know. It would be a big help.

Best regards,

by **jtstang** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:38 pm

Big10Ponyfan wrote:Heights, weights and 40 times are important tools but the question with any recruit is, "Can He Play?"

How about "can he help us win?" Seems to me that our recruiting record over the last seventeen or so years is pretty bad under that standard.

by **SoCal_Pony** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:38 pm

The Truth lies somewhere between Blog and Stallion. Most of the rest is pure bunk.

EastStang, you mention Rock Bands and Meeks and Phillips, but all that was 2+ years ago, an eternity in college FB.

I am sure if you go back and research it you will find some great quotes from PB about never ever being exposed at the QB position again.

Yet here we are, in PB's make or break season, and he is relying on a Freshman QB with zero college experience. If Willis fails who exactly will carry the day for SMU?...PB has no Plan B at the QB position.

I'm sure it is not due to lack of effort...but those are the facts...

And for all you sheep that keep attacking Stallion...please explain again (without mentioning Stallion) how it is possibly a good thing that the majority of players PB has recruited over the past 2 now going on 3 years have not received any other quality offers???

by **mrydel** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:44 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:The Truth lies somewhere between Blog and Stallion. Most of the rest is pure bunk.

EastStang, you mention Rock Bands and Meeks and Phillips, but all that was 2+ years ago, an eternity in college FB.

I am sure if you go back and research it you will find some great quotes from PB about never ever being exposed at the QB position again.

Yet here we are, in PB's make or break season, and he is relying on a Freshman QB with zero college experience. If Willis fails who exactly will carry the day for SMU?...PB has no Plan B at the QB position.

I'm sure it is not due to lack of effort...but those are the facts...

And for all you sheep that keep attacking Stallion...please explain again (without mentioning Stallion) how it is possibly a good thing that the majority of players PB has recruited over the past 2 now going on 3 years have not received any other quality offers???

The only comment I would add to this is that Bennett had a plan B and it was the JC route. But apparently (no I do not have any facts, sorry) admission standards messed us up on getting the players he wanted. So Slater is Plan B. He may turn out to be the real thing if needed, but I think we would all be a lot more comfortable if one of the earlier mentioned prospects from Junior College had panned out.

by **McClown27** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:46 pm

You're right SoCal Pony. Any consistent fan of this program becomes skeptical of these undersized prospects with no other scholarship options. I'm sure we'll hear a bunch of people comparing him to Drew Brees, Dave Kreig, and Jim McMahon.

by **SMU Football Blog** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:46 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:The Truth lies somewhere between Blog and Stallion. Most of the rest is pure bunk.

EastStang, you mention Rock Bands and Meeks and Phillips, but all that was 2+ years ago, an eternity in college FB.

I am sure if you go back and research it you will find some great quotes from PB about never ever being exposed at the QB position again.

Yet here we are, in PB's make or break season, and he is relying on a Freshman QB with zero college experience. If Willis fails who exactly will carry the day for SMU?...PB has no Plan B at the QB position.

I'm sure it is not due to lack of effort...but those are the facts...

And that is a huge point. Bennett said this over and over again. And here we are, again. Arguably, Bennett's most important year and the choices are starting a redshirt freshman QB or a one year juco transfer that started less than half his games.

Wait, are you saying I am sunshiner? Weird.

by **McClown27** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:47 pm

mrydel wrote:
The only comment I would add to this is that Bennett had a plan B and it was the JC route. But apparently (no I do not have any facts, sorry) admission standards messed us up on getting the players he wanted. So Slater is Plan B. He may turn out to be the real thing if needed, but I think we would all be a lot more comfortable if one of the earlier mentioned prospects from Junior College had panned out.

What about Slater? Is he being redshirted now?

by **McClown27** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:49 pm

In Phil's system, I am frankly more concerned about the linebackers.

by **SMU Football Blog** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:57 pm

McClown27 wrote:In Phil's system, I am frankly more concerned about the linebackers.

Huh?

by **mrydel** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:00 pm

I am not confident about any position, but I for some reason feel ok with the LBs. With the speed he has and the type of defense he runs we should be ok if they follow instructions. I played LB in the same sort of scheme. You just have to rely on the big guys up front to keep you free to pursue. The onus is on folks like Muse, Rogers, Haywood, et al to do their jobs, and the LBs should be ok. Now against the offense the Tech will throw at them anything could happen. Linebackers are run first and pass 2nd so they could spend a lot of time chasing on the 2nd of September. Wait unitl after the first 4 games to judge the linebackers and the cornerbacks. A QB has to perform from day 1.

I know nothing of Slater being redshirted nor do I expect him to be. I think he is #2 due to experience although very limited. The point I was making was that I think Bennett wanted a little higher rated JC QB to begin the season and work Willis in. Did not happen.

by **jtstang** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:04 pm

We are okay at the linebacker position. We've got more than enough quarterbacks available to move there, it they cannot crack the tight end rotation.

by **EastStang** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:51 pm

Meeks would have been a junior this year, but never stepped up and won a job. Phillips is a junior this year and was injured. You will always have QB's who are coming in as red-shirt freshmen and transfers without much playing time. That will happen in every program. TT has had several QB's start that crazy offense with only a game or two under their belts and they have done well. He had Plan A (Phillips) Plan B (Meeks) and now he's in Plan C and D since they did not develop as planned.

by **PonyPride** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:56 pm

McClown27 wrote:What about Slater? Is he being redshirted now?

No.

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