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Postby that's great raplh » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:29 pm

i am watching the BC CMU game and the new clock rules suck [deleted]

i really hate this...

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Postby smupony94 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:09 pm

1. The clock starts on kickoffs. It used to start once the ball was touched by the recieving team.
2. After a first down, the clock will stop long enough to have the ball ready for play. It used to stay stopped until the snap.
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Postby that's great raplh » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:13 pm

i am so full of rage
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Postby smu diamond m » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:22 pm

I too think the rules are a bit asinine, but then again everything the NCAA does seems that way...
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Postby that's great raplh » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:24 pm

i wonder if there is anyway to change this

like a petition or something
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Postby smupony94 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:36 pm

Raplh put down the pipe and I will put down the bottle
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Postby BRStang » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:26 am

I watched the SC/Miss.St. game last night, and the new clock rules really made a difference. Not necessarily in the outcome, but definitely with the length of the game and the two-minute offense capabilities.

I would guess that if these rules were in effect at the SMU/UAB game last year, we never would've had the chance to win the game.

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Postby JasonB » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:01 am

BRStang wrote:I watched the SC/Miss.St. game last night, and the new clock rules really made a difference. Not necessarily in the outcome, but definitely with the length of the game and the two-minute offense capabilities.

I would guess that if these rules were in effect at the SMU/UAB game last year, we never would've had the chance to win the game.

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I watched that game too. The clock changes has a MASSIVE effect.

Not only are the rules changed as is mentioned above, but the clock ALSO STARTS ON CHANGE OF POSSESSION. Yes, that's right. After a kickoff or a punt, once the ball is placed and whistle blown, the clock starts.

That means that each possesion, an additional half minute at least is run off. That also means if you are running out the clock at the end of the game, the other team can't stop it. They have to call timeout 1) after the punt, 2) after first down, 3) after second down, and then don't have anything left for third down.

The clock effect is massive. It certainly had an effect ont he game last night. I would guess that Carolina ran about 20 less plays than they normally want to.

On top of that, because of the shortened game, the defense of Miss State was able to go hard the whole time. There was no wear down. Normally, in that type of game, South Caroline would have blown the game open in the last ten minutes. This time, there was no last ten minutes.

Same thing with Northern Arizona vs Arizona State. Normally in that type of game, game is tied at halftime and the underdog gets worn down at the line at the start/middle of the third quarter (happened to us in the past in home games against Tech and Baylor). Instead, in this game, NAU didn't start wearing down until the 4th.

I think what we are looking at here is a swing in the game. Int he past 10 years, you had to open it up a bit to be a national championship contender. Spread offenses were dominant. Now, we are going to swing a little the other way. These rule changes are going to be a boost to teams that have a great defense and a ball control offense.

As much a I don't really like the changes, I think they help SMU this season, and also help us against the spread against Tech.
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Postby Stallion » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:06 am

How to Ruin the Greatest Game Ever Played by the NCAA. The NCAA has squandered the very difference between college and pros which made its games better and more exciting in the closing minutes. Now we get to see Panic and balls thrown at the Left Guards' ankle. They have also squandered a unique strategic aspect of College Football. The strategic need to get first downs in closing drives to stop the clock.
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Postby mrydel » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:15 am

Stallion wrote:How to Ruin the Greatest Game Ever Played by the NCAA. The NCAA has squandered the very difference between college and pros which made its games better and more exciting in the closing minutes. Now we get to see Panic and balls thrown at the Left Guards' ankle. They have also squandered a unique strategic aspect of College Football. The strategic need to get first downs in closing drives to stop the clock.


Totally agree.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:25 am

The irony is that they are trying to shorten the games for TV when TV is the reasons the games are so long in the first place.

Most of the new clock rules are idiotic. The one I do somewhat agree with is the timeout after change of possession. It doesn't take five minutes to figure out what your first offensive play is going to be after a punt or kickoff. It isn't like it comes as a surprise. The NFL is the worst. We don't need to go to commercial after a score then go to a commerical after the kickoff. That is ridiculous.
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Postby mrydel » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:40 am

SMU Football Blog wrote:The irony is that they are trying to shorten the games for TV when TV is the reasons the games are so long in the first place.

Most of the new clock rules are idiotic. The one I do somewhat agree with is the timeout after change of possession. It doesn't take five minutes to figure out what your first offensive play is going to be after a punt or kickoff. It isn't like it comes as a surprise. The NFL is the worst. We don't need to go to commercial after a score then go to a commerical after the kickoff. That is ridiculous.


Doug Flutie was very upset with the new rule and last night made a very profound statement. He said, paraphrasing..."If they want to shorten the games, why do they not just shorten the game and leave the rules alone. Take off a minute each quarter and let them play by the same rules they have always played by." I do not advocate shortening the games, but if they want to, this sure makes sense to me.
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Postby jtstang » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:42 am

mrydel wrote:Doug Flutie was very upset with the new rule and last night made a very profound statement. He said, paraphrasing..."If they want to shorten the games, why do they not just shorten the game and leave the rules alone. Take off a minute each quarter and let them play by the same rules they have always played by." I do not advocate shortening the games, but if they want to, this sure makes sense to me.

Did he also advocate shortening the defensive linemen?
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Postby mrydel » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:44 am

jtstang wrote:
mrydel wrote:Doug Flutie was very upset with the new rule and last night made a very profound statement. He said, paraphrasing..."If they want to shorten the games, why do they not just shorten the game and leave the rules alone. Take off a minute each quarter and let them play by the same rules they have always played by." I do not advocate shortening the games, but if they want to, this sure makes sense to me.

Did he also advocate shortening the defensive linemen?


No but he did want to raise the age limit.
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Postby MustangStealth » Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:33 am

If they really wanted to shorten the game, they could take 30 seconds off each TV timeout.
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