SMU (-6.5) vs Ark St

[Arkstfan]

Interesting enough ASU's only TD vs. OSU was an INT return early in the game. ASU had 3 picks vs. OSU. Willis will be key in this game.

Shoulda had another pick for a TD against Army but the dang QB caught the guy by the shirt-tail. After he drug the Army QB about 20 yards enough Army players caught up to tackle him. Coach Roberts said you should never be caught from behind by an offensive lineman even if you are dragging a QB.

[EastStang]

First, Stallion, the academy advantage has of course a disadvantage. That being that you have to give back to the service the years you went to the academy. That of course means that you get to go to Iraq or Afghanistan and get shot at since you will be a junior officer and you count for more points in the assassin Olympics. Unless you go to AFA in which case you get to fly over those countries and get shot at. Not every recruit wants that future for the next five years, plus 4 years at the academy. I am not sure that is a real recruiting advantage because it takes a unique individual to sign on to going to one of the academies.

[MustangIcon]

Nope. Army just took it to A&M, and Okie Lite...while being the weakest link in the B12 south this year, isn't a powderpuff game and ASU held their own until half.

Their D will be a big test for Willis this weekend.

Not sure I would call OSU the weakest link in the Big 12 South just yet. Their defense is supposed to be pretty impressive and I could see them potentially beating Baylor and A&M.

[docpoco]

Nope. Army just took it to A&M, and Okie Lite...while being the weakest link in the B12 south this year, isn't a powderpuff game and ASU held their own until half.

Their D will be a big test for Willis this weekend.

Bobby Reid has the #5 passer rating according to the other post about Justin Willis being #2.

Reid has thrown 7 Td's, and 3 ints.

I dont have to tell you which team is responsible for all 3 of those picks.

[docpoco]

But, like I said..I got my info from their official roster. I'm guessing that was the post that got deleted?

Psh.

I had 2 issues with your post.

#1. you said our LB's were the same.

Thats not true: Your guys ( had a nice post with detailed info but someone deleted it for no reason) are (LOLB MLB ROLD) 205, 230, 205

Our guys, in the same positions are 217, 235, and 255



#2 Then you said that our biggest OL was 300 and some change, and we only had one guy that was 6'4.

In reality there is one 6'6, one 6'5, and 5 6'4s.

Also, if you consider 347, 336, 328, 319, and 315 "300 and some change" then I guess you werent wrong there.


See where my issue were now?

[mustangfan01]

As taken from numerous sources:

Your starting Linebackers...are 215 223 230. I have seen other starting lineups that were about 215 255 and 215. That is comparable enough for me.

In terms of your starting offensive lineman...STARTING...like i care about oversized backups....they are shown as 6'3" 282, 6'3" 320, 6'1" 280, 6'3" 300, 6'5" 288....that 6'3" 320 wasn't even shown starting where I looked earlier...this particular scouting report looks wrong..I think Nick Steffens 6"4 285) is starting over Shoemaker (but I dunno)...which puts u at 6'1,3,3,3,5....and 1 starter over 290.

Correct me if I am wrong..again. Your line is like ours...except I think we actually scheme our line to be lighter, quicker. I don't know about you guys...


So...no, I don't see your issues. But, we can talk 10 pound differential semantics all day.

[docpoco]

As taken from numerous sources:

Correct me if I am wrong..again.

Ok man, ill try to clear this up.

Don't mean to be hateful, but you are wrong. Wherever you are getting your depth charts from, they are wrong. There have been some big adjustments since they were released, but I am holding the gameday release from our Oklahoma State game and here is what we have.

Our starting linebackers compared to SMU's

OLB Koby Mckinnon 6'3 217 (Tony Hawkins 6'1 205)
MLB Devrett Wade 6'0 235 (Carrington 6'2 235)
OLB Josh Williams 6'1 255 (Wilton Mcray 6'0 205)


Our starting OL (which rotate VERY often) are- and have been for both games

LT Matt Mandich 6'3 299
LG Lance Martin 6'4 295/Shawn Shoemake 326 lbs
C Tanner Jenkins 6'1 292
RG Kyle Koets 6'4 307/Vincent Thrower 6'5 347)
RT Cody brown 6'5 326


I dont see whole bunch of short guys when I look at that, and I see 4 that are WELL over 300 pounds.

I dont blame you for not knowing who is starting though. Its confusing for even us.

Also I hope that clears up the issue about the LB's.

[mustangfan01]

Alrighty. It's not worth the effort...it'll all be over soon.

[docpoco]

Alrighty. It's not worth the effort...it'll all be over soon.

its not worth the effort when you are wrong... yes , thats true.

[Fanof49ASU]

FWIW.....here's the roster from our official ASU website.

http://www.asuindians.com/SportSelect.d ... PSID=35789

[mrydel]

I notice you have a Tennessee guy from Ripley, believe it or not!!

[Fanof49ASU]

I notice you have a Tennessee guy from Ripley, believe it or not!!

I live in Nashville, TN and pass that Ripley exit every trip I make back to Arkansas. We definitely had some odd city/town names. My favorite is Bucksnort, TN. One of the last bucks I killed was from there.

[smupony94]

In 2 days we shall know

[JesuitPony]

From Foxsports.com:

Arkansas State (1-1) at SMU (1-2) — Saturday at 8 p.m. ET

Why to watch: Arkansas State gets its final tune up for before it begins the defense of its Sun Belt title against FIU, and this will be a big chance to show its league that it's going to be back and dangerous. SMU put a halt to the slide that started its season with a 45-14 win over Sam Houston State after getting shocked 24-6 by North Texas. This is supposed to be one of the dark-horses in the Conference USA race, but it has hardly played like it so far. If the Mustang offense can use this game to sharpen up, it has a good shot at Tulane next week, but it has to be much, much better to deal with UTEP down the line. A loss to a second Sun Belt team would be disastrous.

Why Arkansas State might win: If North Texas can close down the SMU offense, then Arkansas State should be a brick wall. The Indians and their excellent back seven had trouble with the Oklahoma State offensive balance last week, but SMU doesn't have the sort of offense that can mix things up. Without RB DeMyron Martin, who's out for another few weeks with a broken foot, it's all about QB Justin Willis and his all-around talents. If he's on the mark and able to move the ball down the field consistently, SMU shouldn't have many problems, but if he plays like the new starter the he is, ASU will be alive all game long.

Why SMU might win: SMU's biggest weakness so far has been pass defense, and Arkansas State doesn't throw. In fact, the Indians have the nation's third worst passing game averaging a mere 87.5 yards per game. ASU might be 1-1, but it's only scored 21 points and is having big problems on the lines. The offensive line can run block, but it's not great in pass protection. The defensive line has been good against the run, but it's not doing anything to get into the backfield. In other words, SMU should be able to operate without too much harassment. Whether or not the offense can execute is another story.

Who to watch: Willis is the key to the SMU season, and he might be the X factor in the Conference USA race when all is said and done. He has the talent and he has the arm, and now he has the game that showed just a little of what he might become. Super-accurate so far completing 78% of his passes, he finally got the offense moving against Sam Houston State with 248 yards and five touchdown passes, to go along with a touchdown run. If he can build on that game and come up with another great performance against the Indians, SMU will hit the Conference USA ground running.

What will happen: SMU will be able to throw the ball effectively, Arkansas State won't. The Indians are too one-dimensional to pull off the upset.

Line: SMU -6.5

Must See Rating: (5 skip the birth of your first born - 1 The Janice Dickenson Modeling Agency) ... 2

Fearless Prediction: SMU 23 ... Arkansas State 14

[expony18]

From Foxsports.com:

Arkansas State (1-1) at SMU (1-2) — Saturday at 8 p.m. ET

Why to watch: Arkansas State gets its final tune up for before it begins the defense of its Sun Belt title against FIU, and this will be a big chance to show its league that it's going to be back and dangerous. SMU put a halt to the slide that started its season with a 45-14 win over Sam Houston State after getting shocked 24-6 by North Texas. This is supposed to be one of the dark-horses in the Conference USA race, but it has hardly played like it so far. If the Mustang offense can use this game to sharpen up, it has a good shot at Tulane next week, but it has to be much, much better to deal with UTEP down the line. A loss to a second Sun Belt team would be disastrous.

Why Arkansas State might win: If North Texas can close down the SMU offense, then Arkansas State should be a brick wall. The Indians and their excellent back seven had trouble with the Oklahoma State offensive balance last week, but SMU doesn't have the sort of offense that can mix things up. Without RB DeMyron Martin, who's out for another few weeks with a broken foot, it's all about QB Justin Willis and his all-around talents. If he's on the mark and able to move the ball down the field consistently, SMU shouldn't have many problems, but if he plays like the new starter the he is, ASU will be alive all game long.

Why SMU might win: SMU's biggest weakness so far has been pass defense, and Arkansas State doesn't throw. In fact, the Indians have the nation's third worst passing game averaging a mere 87.5 yards per game. ASU might be 1-1, but it's only scored 21 points and is having big problems on the lines. The offensive line can run block, but it's not great in pass protection. The defensive line has been good against the run, but it's not doing anything to get into the backfield. In other words, SMU should be able to operate without too much harassment. Whether or not the offense can execute is another story.

Who to watch: Willis is the key to the SMU season, and he might be the X factor in the Conference USA race when all is said and done. He has the talent and he has the arm, and now he has the game that showed just a little of what he might become. Super-accurate so far completing 78% of his passes, he finally got the offense moving against Sam Houston State with 248 yards and five touchdown passes, to go along with a touchdown run. If he can build on that game and come up with another great performance against the Indians, SMU will hit the Conference USA ground running.

What will happen: SMU will be able to throw the ball effectively, Arkansas State won't. The Indians are too one-dimensional to pull off the upset.

Line: SMU -6.5

Must See Rating: (5 skip the birth of your first born - 1 The Janice Dickenson Modeling Agency) ... 2

Fearless Prediction: SMU 23 ... Arkansas State 14

i like what im hearing put too much unknowns in this game for me to put any money on it.... especially after the disaster in denton...