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Postby J.T.supporta » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:26 pm

I am sure that "BOWL Possibilities" are in every SMU FB players minds. Tell them to stop thinking about bowl chances and to play one game at a time.
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Postby BRStang » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:28 pm

ponyfan84 wrote:A bowl is NOT out, but highly unlikely at this point in time. Yea we're 3-0 at home, but we're playing the best 2 teams in the conference in the coming weeks. We can beat UAB, and hopefully we can overcome our kyptonite (road games) and beat Rice down in Houston, but we have to, and I mean have to steal a game from either Houston or Tulsa. Going 7-5, plus some key loses by other teams could sneak us in.


We are battling with Houston for a bowl spot--plain and simple. We MUST go 7-5 AND beat both UAB and Houston. If we don't beat both teams, we're cooked. And beating Houston the way we played today is a pipe dream. On top of that, I hate the way the Rice game stacks up--playing them down in Houston where we haven't won in forever. It could be deja vu TCU 1997.

C-USA teams headed to a bowl:

Tulsa
UTEP
USM
ECU or UAB (C-USA East will have more than 1 team in a bowl game, so don't even think about it.)
Houston or SMU

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Postby giacfsp » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:31 pm

SMU is no more out of the bowl picture than we are assured of a bowl bid. There's still four games to play. We can assure ourselves a bid, or we can preclude any chance of a bid, regardless of what any other team does.

Folks -- we're 4-4. This is an IMPROVEMENT over years past. Support these guys, for god's sake.
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Postby Stallion » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:34 pm

just go away-you are not helping the cheerleader cause. Geez are you Phil Bennet's Momma-you always sound so ridiculous in situations like this.
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Postby giacfsp » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:38 pm

YOU're telling ME to go away? You're the last person who should be telling others to get off a FANS' board.

For being a supportive fan? Sorry I'm not going to promote the idea of abandoning my team when we still have a chance to reach a lot of goals.
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Postby J.T.supporta » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:38 pm

For Orsini...the only improvement he wants is a BOWL GAME.
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Postby Stallion » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:42 pm

I don't think anyone wants to hear how IMPROVED we are after playing Arkansas Tech, Notth Texas Teachers College and Sam Houston State Monument. i really don't think you can logically say we are improved based on beating teams below 110 in the Sagarin ratings. Say East Carolina played a great game. Say we will get better with Martin, Muse and Henderson back-say we still can go to a bowl but I don't think you can really sell that we are so much better than teams that actually played a competitive schedule. You do the same thing after every loss=where is your buddy Ponyboy? Just deal with the facts and cut the blind rah! rah!
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Postby J.T.supporta » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:45 pm

I agree. If you look back to last year, we have not improved. I think that our record does not necesarily show improvement, especially if you look at our schedule.

UNT will have 2 wins this year. US and 7OT snore fest FAU...or was it FIU..
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Postby giacfsp » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:47 pm

Stallion wrote:I don't think anyone wants to hear how IMPROVED we are after playing Arkansas Tech, Notth Texas Teachers College and Sam Houston State Monument. i really don't think you can logically say we are improved based on beating teams below 110 in the Sagarin ratings. say we will get better with Martin, Muse and Henderson back-say we still can go to a bowl but I don't think you can really sell that we are so much better than teams that actually played a competitive schedule. You do the same thing after every loss=where is your buddy Ponyboy? Just deal with the facts and cut the blind rah! rah!
Thankfully you don't speak for any PonyFans, much less all of them. Granted, you'd be much happier if we were 0-8, because then your "why do we bother to keep breathing?" rant would have so much more merit.

Sagarin ratings mean as much as the opinions of PonyFans -- since Sagarin starts the season with predetermined rankings, his formula includes a built-in bias, and subsequently includes little information based on actual fact or research or actual game watching.

How can you ask anyone to quit the "blind rah rah" when you can't quit the blind "end of the world" mantra?

How pissed are you going to be if we DO make a bowl?

Personally, I don't care how pissed you get. I'm going to root for the Ponies, and whether you throw a party in celebration or seek therapy, I don't care. The Ponies are my team, and your complaining is irrelevant.
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Postby Sam I Am » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:48 pm

Well. if FB makes his late season run in November as he has done a few times, then SMU could go 7-5. Right now we have to figure that road games are losses. We have to beat UAB and UH to be in the chase, and that will take some extra effort, a good bounce of the ball, and an extra lap around the beads to make happen.
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Postby WorldStang » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:49 pm

Stallion wrote:I don't think anyone wants to hear how IMPROVED we are after playing Arkansas Tech, Notth Texas Teachers College and Sam Houston State Monument. i really don't think you can logically say we are improved based on beating teams below 110 in the Sagarin ratings. Say East Carolina played a great game. Say we will get better with Martin, Muse and Henderson back-say we still can go to a bowl but I don't think you can really sell that we are so much better than teams that actually played a competitive schedule. You do the same thing after every loss=where is your buddy Ponyboy? Just deal with the facts and cut the blind rah! rah!


Somewhat true.. but Stallion, your sing the same song regardless.. so a bit of a push.

In truth we're better with Willis but not Bowl worthy this year.. plain and simple.
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Postby Stallion » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:50 pm

the built in ratings from previous years drops out after the 3rd game. Those ratings are somewhat reflective of a teams performance after 8 games. Probably a lot more than counting victories over 3 paddy-cakes-or actually two paddy-cakes.
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Postby PK » Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:12 pm

Well in the past few years, our main problem has been that we had no offense...getting more than 10 points a game was tough. We now seem to have found an offense although a bit inconsistent, but certainly capable of putting a fair number of points on the board. Now it would seem that our biggest problem is our secondary which was predicted after last season because of the players we were losing to graduation. The critical factor for SMU to have a chance at winning all of the next four games lies in whether or not the secondary can be improved to the necessary level quick enough...if at all. You can coach until you drop over, but the players on the field have to make it happen...period.
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Postby SMU88 » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:39 pm

If SMU reaches 6 wins they will go to a bowl. In fact I am willing to bet that CUSA and the bowls that are tied to the conference are routing for SMU to reach 6 wins. It has been 20 years since SMU was in a bowl game and if SMU reaches the 6 wins to become bowl eligible a bowl will pick them up. The national publicity that it would bring to the bowl as well as the number of SMU fans old and new that will want to attend the game will be huge. The attention an SMU bowl game would be as big as one of the BCS bowls.

SMU will be in a bowl game this year and I will be in attendance.
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Postby BRStang » Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:01 pm

More Koolaid, please! Yeah!!!!
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