mustangfan01 wrote:Bennett doesn't call the offensive plays. Seriously, shut the f**k up.
I don't know who you are telling to shut up, but I didn't say Bennent calls the plays, I just said it was a STUPID call. I will reiterate what someone else pointed out, and that is the fact that Bennent called a timeout to discuss the play. Don't you assume he had input on that call?
Why would they ever think that a head coach would have input on something like that? Clearly, they're masters of the game.
the sweep play is my LEAST favorite in football, college or pro. It allows too much time for defenders to run to the ball, and relies on blockers getting to the outsides. I HATE SWEEPS
mustangfan01 wrote:Bennett doesn't call the offensive plays. Seriously, shut the f**k up.
THey have a play for this type of situation and work on it in practice. Bennett knows what play we are going to run when the situation arises. Yes,Rusty called it but Bennett preapproved it so wah wah
mustangfan01 wrote:He called the timeout. He is a defensive coach...he doesn't call the offensive plays -- his job is to yell at Burns when they don't get the 1st.
I also don't recall naming names about who thinks Bennett called the play...but thanks for the response.
Obviously, you've never been on the sideline, nor do you know how involved Coach Bennett is in the playcalling of a 4th and 1 play. You've proved your lack of knowledge on this board many times over by now. Shut up.
mavsrage311 wrote:the sweep play is my LEAST favorite in football, college or pro. It allows too much time for defenders to run to the ball, and relies on blockers getting to the outsides. I HATE SWEEPS
I agree. Unless , of course, one were to look at the prospects of a sweep vs SMU
The 4th-and-1 call was absolutely stupid for several reasons:
(1) We took the penalty and points off the board;
(2) The play we ran was inappropriate considering our field position. The defense has a much better chance of defending against that play when the field is short as opposed to being on the 50;
(3) It gave UH the opportunity to shift the momentum with a major near-goalline stand, which it fortunately failed to take advantage of after marching downfield into our territory. Why even give UH the opportunity?
Having said all of this, I don't think it was the reason we lost. The 3rd-and-19 conversion for UH in the 2nd half was a back-breaker. Also, did anyone else notice the poor tackling by our defense? Too many times yesterday we had defenders grabbing for the arm of the offensive player or for the ball when we should have been focused first on tackling the player and second on stripping the ball.
Mustang1991 wrote:The 4th-and-1 call was absolutely stupid for several reasons:
(1) We took the penalty and points off the board; (2) The play we ran was inappropriate considering our field position. The defense has a much better chance of defending against that play when the field is short as opposed to being on the 50; (3) It gave UH the opportunity to shift the momentum with a major near-goalline stand, which it fortunately failed to take advantage of after marching downfield into our territory. Why even give UH the opportunity?
Having said all of this, I don't think it was the reason we lost. The 3rd-and-19 conversion for UH in the 2nd half was a back-breaker. Also, did anyone else notice the poor tackling by our defense? Too many times yesterday we had defenders grabbing for the arm of the offensive player or for the ball when we should have been focused first on tackling the player and second on stripping the ball.
I don't think many of us are questioning the call to GO FOR IT on 4th and 1.. we are questioning the play call. And I don't think I've ever seen the sweep play work for us. We tried it a few times that day and I don't think we gained a yard on it.
To address the tackling issue: that was lack of athletic talent/speed at those positions. We're not a blazing team and we don't deal welll with speed. You saw all the bad angles they took on almost every tackle.. they were not used to the speed of Aldridge.. that said... Carrington's angle on Kolb for the potential safety was absolutely stunning to watch. Kolb basically sidestepped him, and that kind of attempt is inexcusable.
the decision to go for it on 4th and 1 was solid. If you can't run for one yard on 3rd or 4th and 1-a recurring theme this year then you either aren't executing on offense, the play calling was bad or your offensive line really isn't very good at run blocking-or perhaps its a combination of all three.
jtstang wrote:Is there a one-yard power dive in the playbook?
Apparently not. And for those that say we took points off the board, we did not. The penalty that gave us 4th and 1 was a dead ball and the kick did not count. You can argue going or not going (and I was for going for it) but it was not a "points of the board" issue. I would like to believe that Morestead would have made it however.
Bad angles, poor tackeling, and play calling that boggles the mind. What more can you say. Justin may be loose with the ball, but he is still the one that gives us the very best shot at being successfull on a play.
Once again, you talk like you know anything Florida.
Bennett did not call the play. Burns did. Period.
You run the toss on 4th and 1 to beat the inside blitz pressure you expect a team to bring. It's 4th and 1, so Houston will stack the middle to crush a QB sneak or Iso...possible a trap/counter.
There are a few problems with that:
1) Our QB is 5'11"/6'...his sneak will net 4 inches.
2) Mapps was in in the backfield alone...he can't run over anyone.
3) Our O-Line is completely dominated in between the tackles.
4) We have no lead blocker
5) You CANNOT run the perimeter so close to the endzone.
6) This is the same play we usually use on 4th down...it was the same play that got Demyron injured vs UNT and blew our drive up.
7) They have watched hours of our game tape and KNOW we are not going to pound that ball.
If any of you on here didn't expect a toss sweep on that 4th and 1...wow. We are so obvious in obvious situations -- we will not do the obvious.
When you have a 4th and 1 you need quick punch because you can't pick up all the fits. They will bring all 4 down linemen and at least 50%/66% of their linebackers in the gaps. So, what do you do....you toss it outside. Their safeties fly down...whoever was outside just walked right into it...like they always do.
mustangfan01 wrote:Bennett did not call the play. Burns did. Period. You run the toss on 4th and 1 to beat the inside blitz pressure you expect a team to bring. It's 4th and 1, so Houston will stack the middle to crush a QB sneak or Iso...possible a trap/counter. There are a few problems with that:
1) Our QB is 5'11"/6'...his sneak will net 4 inches. 2) Mapps was in in the backfield alone...he can't run over anyone. 3) Our O-Line is completely dominated in between the tackles. 4) We have no lead blocker 5) You CANNOT run the perimeter so close to the endzone. 6) This is the same play we usually use on 4th down...it was the same play that got Demyron injured vs UNT and blew our drive up. 7) They have watched hours of our game tape and KNOW we are not going to pound that ball.
If any of you on here didn't expect a toss sweep on that 4th and 1...wow. We are so obvious in obvious situations -- we will not do the obvious.
When you have a 4th and 1 you need quick punch because you can't pick up all the fits. They will bring all 4 down linemen and at least 50%/66% of their linebackers in the gaps. So, what do you do....you toss it outside. Their safeties fly down...whoever was outside just walked right into it...like they always do.
Now Florida, seriously, hush. You're a joke.
Listen. Phil Jr., the buck stops with the head coach. Stupideist 4th and one call in the history of football happened on your dad's watch, so get over it.
I said it the last 2 times and I will say it again. We have a 3 yard pass to the tight end that we run when it is 3rd and 4. Why don't we run it when it is 4th and 1?
