PonyFans.comBoard IndexAround the HilltopFootballRecruitingBasketballOther Sports

Copeland II, Please End This SINE WAVE

This is the forum for talk about SMU Football

Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower

Copeland II, Please End This SINE WAVE

Postby PlanoStang » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:55 pm

Does any body know what a sine wave is :?: I know our buddies at Rice
do.

Problem is, if we fire Bennett, it says we keep firing our really good
coaches at the top of the sine wave at 5 or 6 wins since we didn't win the
national championship those years. Then we have to go downhill to the
bottom of the wave to take care of the learning curve of a new coaching
staff, and players that don't want to play for the new staff. See 0 -12.

We got our wittle hearts broke, and didn't go to a bowl game :cry:

Will the below look like our record of firing coaches at the top SMU's sine
wave of 5 to 6 wins the last 18 years, if the potential Copeland THE
SECOND fires Bennett :?:

Copeland was a new hire JERK to fire Rossley given our situation :!:

Image
User avatar
PlanoStang
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 3258
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Plano, Texas USA

Re: Copeland II, Please End This SINE WAVE

Postby expony18 » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:56 pm

PlanoStang wrote:Does any body know what a sine wave is :?: I know our buddies at Rice
do.

Problem is, if we fire Bennett, it says we keep firing our really good
coaches at the top of the sine wave at 5 or 6 wins since we didn't win the
national championship those years. Then we have to go downhill to the
bottom of the wave to take care of the learning curve of a new coaching
staff, and players that don't want to play for the new staff. See 0 -12.

We got our wittle hearts broke, and didn't go to a bowl game :cry:

Will the below look like our record of firing coaches at the top SMU's sine
wave of 5 to 6 wins the last 18 years, if the potential Copeland THE
SECOND fires Bennett :?:

Copeland was a new hire JERK to fire Rossley given our situation:!:

Image
agreed
expony18
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9968
Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:54 pm

Postby BRStang » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:57 pm

I guess Rice and Todd Graham don't utilize the sine wave methodology.
Geaux MUSTANGS! Geaux Tigers!
User avatar
BRStang
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2850
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:26 am
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Postby expony18 » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:58 pm

BRStang wrote:I guess Rice and Todd Graham don't utilize the sine wave methodology.
we know LSU does
expony18
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 9968
Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:54 pm

Postby gostangs » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:03 pm

seems like Houston did some damage with someone newer the PB - and that place is a useless hell hole.

Oh yeah, and how long has the Tulsa guy been there.....?
gostangs
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 12315
Joined: Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas USA

Postby BRStang » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:05 pm

expony18 wrote:
BRStang wrote:I guess Rice and Todd Graham don't utilize the sine wave methodology.
we know LSU does


ooooohhhh....aahhhhhh....ouch..... :roll:
Geaux MUSTANGS! Geaux Tigers!
User avatar
BRStang
Hall of Famer
 
Posts: 2850
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:26 am
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Postby PlanoStang » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:09 pm

BRStang wrote:I guess Rice and Todd Graham don't utilize the sine wave methodology.


Nope, they just switched from the model T offense to the Panoz G-Force
IRL car offense you see in my avatar.

It actually goes a lot faster than shown in the avatar. :wink:
User avatar
PlanoStang
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 3258
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Plano, Texas USA

Re: Copeland II, Please End This SINE WAVE

Postby thefamousguy » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:22 pm

PlanoStang wrote:Does any body know what a sine wave is :?: I know our buddies at Rice
do.

Problem is, if we fire Bennett, it says we keep firing our really good
coaches at the top of the sine wave at 5 or 6 wins since we didn't win the
national championship those years. Then we have to go downhill to the
bottom of the wave to take care of the learning curve of a new coaching
staff, and players that don't want to play for the new staff. See 0 -12.

We got our wittle hearts broke, and didn't go to a bowl game :cry:

Will the below look like our record of firing coaches at the top SMU's sine
wave of 5 to 6 wins the last 18 years, if the potential Copeland THE
SECOND fires Bennett :?:

Copeland was a new hire JERK to fire Rossley given our situation :!:

Image

This Sine Wave is a bunch of garbage!!! We haven't had a really good coach at SMU since the death penalty. We continue to hire guys who don't have proven success on the D1 level as a head coach. It's time to spend the money and hire someone with some D1 success.

Furthermore, our pain isn't simply because we didn't go to a bowl this year. It's because our team has been losing for twenty years.

Money talks and good coaches will walk, right onto the SMU campus for the correct amount of money. Pony up!!$$ SMU
User avatar
thefamousguy
Varsity
 
Posts: 375
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:58 pm
Location: Dallas

Postby SmartAsymptote » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:26 pm

i agree this whole sine wave theory is complete crap .... is Mike Ditka still available?
SmartAsymptote
Scout Team
 
Posts: 75
Joined: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:36 pm

Re: Copeland II, Please End This SINE WAVE

Postby PK » Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:00 am

thefamousguy wrote:
PlanoStang wrote:Does any body know what a sine wave is :?: I know our buddies at Rice
do.

Problem is, if we fire Bennett, it says we keep firing our really good
coaches at the top of the sine wave at 5 or 6 wins since we didn't win the
national championship those years. Then we have to go downhill to the
bottom of the wave to take care of the learning curve of a new coaching
staff, and players that don't want to play for the new staff. See 0 -12.

We got our wittle hearts broke, and didn't go to a bowl game :cry:

Will the below look like our record of firing coaches at the top SMU's sine
wave of 5 to 6 wins the last 18 years, if the potential Copeland THE
SECOND fires Bennett :?:

Copeland was a new hire JERK to fire Rossley given our situation :!:

Image

This Sine Wave is a bunch of garbage!!! We haven't had a really good coach at SMU since the death penalty. We continue to hire guys who don't have proven success on the D1 level as a head coach. It's time to spend the money and hire someone with some D1 success.

Furthermore, our pain isn't simply because we didn't go to a bowl this year. It's because our team has been losing for twenty years.

Money talks and good coaches will walk, right onto the SMU campus for the correct amount of money. Pony up!!$$ SMU
I must assume you will be at the front of the line to pony up your $2,000,000 part of the fund...or are you just talking big with other people's money???????????
User avatar
PK
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 8805
Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas 75206

Re: Copeland II, Please End This SINE WAVE

Postby PlanoStang » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:27 pm

thefamousguy wrote:
PlanoStang wrote:Does any body know what a sine wave is :?: I know our buddies at Rice
do.

Problem is, if we fire Bennett, it says we keep firing our really good
coaches at the top of the sine wave at 5 or 6 wins since we didn't win the
national championship those years. Then we have to go downhill to the
bottom of the wave to take care of the learning curve of a new coaching
staff, and players that don't want to play for the new staff. See 0 -12.

We got our wittle hearts broke, and didn't go to a bowl game :cry:

Will the below look like our record of firing coaches at the top SMU's sine
wave of 5 to 6 wins the last 18 years, if the potential Copeland THE
SECOND fires Bennett :?:

Copeland was a new hire JERK to fire Rossley given our situation :!:

Image

This Sine Wave is a bunch of garbage!!! We haven't had a really good coach at SMU since the death penalty. We continue to hire guys who don't have proven success on the D1 level as a head coach. It's time to spend the money and hire someone with some D1 success.

Furthermore, our pain isn't simply because we didn't go to a bowl this year. It's because our team has been losing for twenty years.

Money talks and good coaches will walk, right onto the SMU campus for the correct amount of money. Pony up!!$$ SMU


1. We ain't got no money :!: :!:

2. I think that Forrest Gregg, former SMU All-America, who led the NFL
Bengals to the Super Bowl is the BEST coach we've had since the DP
which blows your knee jerk statement away :!:

3. Tom Rossley was an NFL caliber OC before he came to SMU with
Forrest Gregg, and resumed that position with the Green Bay
Packers for a number of years after he was let go by Copeland I.

4. The observed data fits the SINE WAVE :!:
User avatar
PlanoStang
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 3258
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Plano, Texas USA

Postby abezontar » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:46 am

Forrest Gregg
1989: 2-9
1990: 1-10

Tom Rossley
1991: 1-10
1992: 5-6
1993: 2-7-2
1994: 1-9-1
1995: 1-10
1996: 5-6

Cavan (sp, that's said that I can't remember how to spell his name)
1997: 6-5
1998: 5-7
1999: 4-6
2000: 3-9
2001: 4-7

Bennett
2002: 3-9
2003: 0-12
2004: 3-8
2005: 5-6
2006: 6-6

I don't see a generic sine or cosine wave form in our record. You could generate a set of equations that would accommodate for the wild fluctuations in amplitude but I've forgotten too much to be able to do it this late at night. I think the sine theory needs to pass quietly into the night.
The donkey's name is Kiki.

On a side note, anybody need a patent attorney?

Good, Bad...I'm the one with the gun.
User avatar
abezontar
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 3888
Joined: Mon Apr 01, 2002 4:01 am
Location: Mustang, TX

Postby Stallion » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:01 am

looks more like a straight line of poor football teams to me
Stallion
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 44302
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2000 4:01 am
Location: Dallas,Texas,USA

Postby EastStang » Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:34 am

We had a coach who led a team to the Super Bowl but had 3 wins at SMU. We had a coach who was nationally recognized as an offensive star. We had a coach with solid 1-AA head coaching experience and Division 1 BCS assistant status. We had a coach with solid coordinator experience at a successful BCS program. Yet all have had losing records. The reason perhaps has nothing to do with coaching ability or even recruiting ability. It has to do with having a University that players feel good about coming to. We have an education department in its infancy which will help solve the transferable credits problem and the "athlete friendly major" problem to some degree. We cannot and never will be able to admit the players that other schools like UT, TT, ECU, UH and A&M admit. So we start out with a handicap similar to Duke. However, Wake Forest has a great season every now and then. Miami has a great season most of the time. ND has a great season most of the time. Orsini has spent time at ND, so he should be able to figure out what they do that we are not doing. Obviously ND is an iconic school to which almost every catholic aspires to attend so they have a pretty large recruiting tool (CYO, Priests). However, even ND has had problems in recent years competitively because they can't admit just anybody (note losses to Michigan and USC). USC is a Methodist University. They seem to get some great players. Whether they are buying players has yet to be shown. But if Orsini could look at USC, Stanford, Notre Dame and glean from those schools an idea of what we're lacking, it would go a long way to ending the wave.
EastStang
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 12668
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2002 4:01 am

Postby PlanoStang » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:42 pm

abezontar wrote:Forrest Gregg
1989: 2-9
1990: 1-10

Tom Rossley
1991: 1-10
1992: 5-6
1993: 2-7-2
1994: 1-9-1
1995: 1-10
1996: 5-6

Cavan (sp, that's said that I can't remember how to spell his name)
1997: 6-5
1998: 5-7
1999: 4-6
2000: 3-9
2001: 4-7

Bennett
2002: 3-9
2003: 0-12
2004: 3-8
2005: 5-6
2006: 6-6

I don't see a generic sine or cosine wave form in our record. You could generate a set of equations that would accommodate for the wild fluctuations in amplitude but I've forgotten too much to be able to do it this late at night. I think the sine theory needs to pass quietly into the night.


Then you know NOTHING ABOUT RMS, or Root Mean Square averages.
You bought your stereo without knowing anything. :oops:




and if you can't see the pattern
User avatar
PlanoStang
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 3258
Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 3:01 am
Location: Plano, Texas USA

Next

Return to Football

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 17 guests