We Need to Wait Until Progress is not made

[alamocitystang]

No coach has done better than Bennett in the situation of SMU Football since the DP. I don't care about any other programs. Until we revert back to below 6 wins I think he should stay. If we pick up one more win each year we're going to get back to a respectable place. Bennett should only be judged on what he has been able to accomplish compared to other coaches at SMU post DP. I know Cavan did great early, but Bennett has been able to improve gradually. This team is alot more competitive in most games than Cavans teams. I wouldn't mind seeing a new offensive coordinator...preferably someone who knows how to gain a yard on the goaline...but other than that I cannot complain until we see a step back. As long as each year is a step forward even if it is a baby step he should stay.
How can you fire a coach after the 1st or 2nd best year you've had in 20 years? Sorry, that's just dumb. I need to see a reason that someone else could do better and that reason does not exist. Rice is not the same situation. Tulsa is not the same situation. UTEP is far from what we have here. Back off Bennett!!!! If any of you had actually met the guy you would be pulling for him!! I don't want some stuck up [deleted] taking over head coaching duties!! I want a guy who stayed loyal to the program and coaches his entire career at one school!!!! I'm tired of you quitters!!! This season was an improvemnt!!! If we go under .500 next year we know he should be fired, but I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that if he stays and I can't believe it's a question that we will do well next season.

[78pony]

Please don't refer to or mention distorted facts. The REAL fact of the matter is our record is 5 wins & 6 losses versus Div I schools. And Ark State has only been D I for a relatively short time.

What is different about Rice & Tulsa that would exclude them from a valid comparision?

Rice - new head coach, new staff, entirely new offense, utilization of old players not recruited for new offense, inferior facilities, inferior athletic reputation, inferior support, inferior players (or if you say NOT, why then has Rice outrecruited us).

Tulsa - many of the same points albeit not a first year coach or staff.

[joyjoy0414]

yes, yes, yes, yes! I totally agree with everything you said! There is a reason why its called a rebuilding time, everything is not going to be perfect all of the sudden. People are expecting greatness out of this young team and its not realistic. For a football team that is only graduating 20 seniors, which most didnt even start... a 6-6 record should be "acceptable" to these football experts we have out there. Everyone who is returning for next season has tasted the sweetness of success and won't settle for anything less. If anything, i think firing PB will set the team back because the stability in the TEAM will be negatively impacted.

Thoughts?

[PhirePhilBennett]

I guess everyone forgot about 3-8, then 0-12

Who was responsible for those seasons?

[expony18]

I guess everyone forgot about 3-8, then 0-12

Who was responsible for those seasons?

Bill Buckner?

[PhirePhilBennett]

yes, yes, yes, yes! I totally agree with everything you said! There is a reason why its called a rebuilding time, everything is not going to be perfect all of the sudden. People are expecting greatness out of this young team and its not realistic. For a football team that is only graduating 20 seniors, which most didnt even start... a 6-6 record should be "acceptable" to these football experts we have out there. Everyone who is returning for next season has tasted the sweetness of success and won't settle for anything less. If anything, i think firing PB will set the team back because the stability in the TEAM will be negatively impacted.

Thoughts?

How good is our horrible defense going to be next year after we graduate the admittedly best DL we've had since '86 (plus Joey)?

[PhirePhilBennett]

I guess everyone forgot about 3-8, then 0-12

Who was responsible for those seasons?

Bill Buckner?

I don't get it. Is that like saying Mitch Cumstein?

[Come and Take It]

[quote="joyjoy0414"]... a 6-6 record should be "acceptable" [quote]

Don't let the numbers skew your mind. A trade off of Baylor and Froggy Land for Arkansas State and Sam Houston State only to have a record of 1 game better from the previous year is hardly acceptable. It's only acceptable if you accept mediocrity.

I see both sides of the coin. Personally, I haven't decided if I want PB to go or for his entire staff to go. Suspect play calling, mediocre recruiting, a lack of a conference championship, and no bowl games certainly don't bode well for PB. Some of those lack of accomplishments go against his own measuring stick.

Look at a school like Boise. It took many coaches (Nutt, Koetter, Hawkins) before Chris Peterson took them to where they are now.

[expony18]

George H. Ruth being sold to finance the play "No, No Nanette?"

[perunapower]

... a 6-6 record should be "acceptable"

Don't let the numbers skew your mind. A trade off of Baylor and Froggy Land for Arkansas State and Sam Houston State only to have a record of 1 game better from the previous year is hardly acceptable. It's only acceptable if you accept mediocrity.

I see both sides of the coin. Personally, I haven't decided if I want PB to go or for his entire staff to go. Suspect play calling, mediocre recruiting, a lack of a conference championship, and no bowl games certainly don't bode well for PB. Some of those lack of accomplishments go against his own measuring stick.

Look at a school like Boise. It took many coaches (Nutt, Koetter, Hawkins) before Chris Peterson took them to where they are now.

While Baylor and TCU may not be equal with ASU and SHSU, you're ignoring the fact that of the teams we played this year all but one improved. ECU, Marshall, and UAB were not the bad teams they were last year. You cannot just simply interchange teams without paying attention to the improvements of the opponents we played both years. You are fooling yourself if you think that our conference schedule is on the same level it was last year.

[SmartAsymptote]

ok but werent we supposed to improve as well though?????

[perunapower]

ok but werent we supposed to improve as well though?????

We did! If our conference improves and we were competing for the western division, I'd say we improved. Now obviously we didn't play well enough to win the division, but to just simply look at the record and say we did the same as last year or even worse is a pathetic excuse for analysis.

[Junior]

I think you have to take into consideration the North Texas and UTEP games. At NT, JWillis was obviously not the same QB he was the rest of the season. And, of course, at UTEP, he was suspended. Overall, I think the team was better than last year's version.

[Stallion]

look we ain't playing jack-all these teams suck. We beat one decent football team. The rest are among the worst football programs (not even Top 100 in Sagarin) whose only wins generally came against even worse teams in their own conference. SMU is not competing at a higher level under Bennett-the damn program has simply sunk so low that they have found a level at which they can compete:

1. Arkansas St.(Division 1AA in 1989)
2. Sam Houston St. (Division 1AA)
3. NTSU (Division 1AA in 1989)
4. Marshall (Division 1AA in 1989)
5. UAB (No Football team even at Division 1AA in 1989)
6.. Tulsa (struggling independent for decades)
7. Tulane (vagabond program which had no spring practice of off season weight training program)

If you want to argue that Phil Bennett deserves another chance because SMU has shackled the program fine but please pull the wool back over your eyes with this absolute [deleted] about Phil bennett having this team playing at such a historic high level.

[SmartAsymptote]

but isnt all that matters having more numbers in the W column than in the L column? or at least thats what i thought......