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Postby MustangStealth » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:45 pm

PhirePhilBennett wrote:How in the world is 6-6 better than 6-5 (Cavan)?


My point exactly.
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Postby huntnfish » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:46 pm

Cavan's 6-5 was with Rossley's players and Rossley would have went 8-3 with that team. Would be the same case if Bennett is fired on the edge of turning it around.
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Postby ponyte » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:46 pm

anurep wrote:If Orsini is scheduled to meet with the team, that in my opinion is very bad news for Bennett. Why would he meet with them if he is staying?


One onders if the meeting is to announce a bowl bid? Just a little something different from the fire and hire blogs of late.
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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:49 pm

ponyte wrote:
anurep wrote:If Orsini is scheduled to meet with the team, that in my opinion is very bad news for Bennett. Why would he meet with them if he is staying?


One onders if the meeting is to announce a bowl bid? Just a little something different from the fire and hire blogs of late.


Well, it won't be with the Fort Worth bowl because Tulsa just accepted an invite to play Utah.
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Postby expony18 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:51 pm

Big10Ponyfan wrote:I think he's gone.

Phil may be a great coach to build a foundation. But I don't think he's the kind of coach who will have you competing for championships year after year.

And this is coming from somebody who would have liked for Phil to stay. But I also want SMU to win, and in looking at the big picture, I don't believe Phil can get us there.
but you also think the big 10 is the best conference in the country
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Postby expony18 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:52 pm

huntnfish wrote:Cavan's 6-5 was with Rossley's players and Rossley would have went 8-3 with that team. Would be the same case if Bennett is fired on the edge of turning it around.
absolutely right...
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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:53 pm

expony18 wrote:
Big10Ponyfan wrote:I think he's gone.

Phil may be a great coach to build a foundation. But I don't think he's the kind of coach who will have you competing for championships year after year.

And this is coming from somebody who would have liked for Phil to stay. But I also want SMU to win, and in looking at the big picture, I don't believe Phil can get us there.
but you also think the big 10 is the best conference in the country


Because it is. Check the bottom two teams on my signature and where they are going.
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Postby FloridaMustang » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:53 pm

It's refreshing that an AD actually gives a [deleted] about the program.. let him take his time, talk to the players, talk to the coaches, fans, etc.

This is probably the most important decision of his tenure at SMU.. I know we all want instant gratification, but we need to let him think things through. I could think of a million analogies for this situation but none of them seem appropriate :)
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Postby huntnfish » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:56 pm

[quote="Big10Ponyfan"][quote="expony18"][quote="Big10Ponyfan"]I think he's gone.

Phil may be a great coach to build a foundation. But I don't think he's the kind of coach who will have you competing for championships year after year.

And this is coming from somebody who would have liked for Phil to stay. But I also want SMU to win, and in looking at the big picture, I don't believe Phil can get us there.[/quote]but you also think the big 10 is the best conference in the country[/quote]

Because it is. Check the bottom two teams on my signature and where they are going.[/quote]

Michigan would lose two games in the SEC and Ohio State one, it is almost impossible to go through the SEC without losing at leat one game due to the high level of competition week in and week out
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Postby PK » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:58 pm

MustangStealth wrote:
PhirePhilBennett wrote:How in the world is 6-6 better than 6-5 (Cavan)?


My point exactly.
Cavan's record got worse with every year of his recruiting. Bennett came in with a full house of Cavan's recruits. When it was all said, he had to field teams of freshmen and sophomores to try to rise above the 0-12 debacle and finally he is getting his recruits into the senior and junior levels. In the last few years, he has finally been able to get juco players in here to fill some holes, which was not that easy when he first got here. Given what he has been up against , he has done a pretty good job...he himself has been on a learning curve and is doing better, but not there totally yet. I vote he be given more time and a chance to improve his staffing too (OC).
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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:59 pm

huntnfish wrote:
Big10Ponyfan wrote:
expony18 wrote:
Big10Ponyfan wrote:I think he's gone.

Phil may be a great coach to build a foundation. But I don't think he's the kind of coach who will have you competing for championships year after year.

And this is coming from somebody who would have liked for Phil to stay. But I also want SMU to win, and in looking at the big picture, I don't believe Phil can get us there.
but you also think the big 10 is the best conference in the country


Because it is. Check the bottom two teams on my signature and where they are going.


Michigan would lose two games in the SEC and Ohio State one, it is almost impossible to go through the SEC without losing at leat one game due to the high level of competition week in and week out


And it would be impossible for any SEC to walk through the Big 10 without a blemish. Auburn did it two years ago.

Perception is reality. I think the SEC is so overrated.
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Postby huntnfish » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:02 pm

[quote="Big10Ponyfan"][quote="huntnfish"][quote="Big10Ponyfan"][quote="expony18"][quote="Big10Ponyfan"]I think he's gone.

Phil may be a great coach to build a foundation. But I don't think he's the kind of coach who will have you competing for championships year after year.

And this is coming from somebody who would have liked for Phil to stay. But I also want SMU to win, and in looking at the big picture, I don't believe Phil can get us there.[/quote]but you also think the big 10 is the best conference in the country[/quote]

Because it is. Check the bottom two teams on my signature and where they are going.[/quote]


Michigan would lose two games in the SEC and Ohio State one, it is almost impossible to go through the SEC without losing at leat one game due to the high level of competition week in and week out[/quote]

And it would be impossible for any SEC to walk through the Big 10 without a blemish. Auburn did it two years ago.

Perception is reality. I think the SEC is so overrated.[/quote]

And your a Swann hater, so who cares- move north and enjoy your football!
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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:03 pm

I love it when the "move north'' response gets re-activated. :roll:

And Craig Swann is a disgrace of a broadcaster.
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Postby SmooBoy » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:07 pm

Big10Ponyfan wrote:
huntnfish wrote:
Big10Ponyfan wrote:
expony18 wrote:
Big10Ponyfan wrote:I think he's gone.

Phil may be a great coach to build a foundation. But I don't think he's the kind of coach who will have you competing for championships year after year.

And this is coming from somebody who would have liked for Phil to stay. But I also want SMU to win, and in looking at the big picture, I don't believe Phil can get us there.
but you also think the big 10 is the best conference in the country


Because it is. Check the bottom two teams on my signature and where they are going.


Michigan would lose two games in the SEC and Ohio State one, it is almost impossible to go through the SEC without losing at leat one game due to the high level of competition week in and week out


And it would be impossible for any SEC to walk through the Big 10 without a blemish. Auburn did it two years ago.

Perception is reality. I think the SEC is so overrated.


Your sig is fine with me with the exception of Iowa. 8th place in the conference (even behind 5-7 Indiana), lost 5 of last 6, and ended with 2-6 conf. record. The Big 10 bowl tie ins and their legion of fans are the ONLY thing getting them to a bowl. They finished the season pathetic.
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Postby PonyPride » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:09 pm

Big10Ponyfan wrote:Because it is. Check the bottom two teams on my signature and where they are going.
OK, I don't know what kind of twisted pleasure you get out of clubbing people over the head with your family's school's conference, but I've known you for a long time, so I can't say I'm surprised that you seem to enjoy baiting people. With that said .... "your" conference has 11 teams (but hey, the "10" in the name gives them a "classic, old-school" feel!), of which exactly three are useful. Ohio State, Michigan, and to a lesser degree, the overrated Wisconsin Badgers. "huntnfish" is exactly right in his assessment of how they'd do in the SEC (or maybe even the ACC), and please don't embarrass yourself by touting the other schools in that conference. The fact that there are too many bowls does not mean that every team who goes to one is a good team, or part of a great conference. The Big 11 is as almost overrated as the Big 12.
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