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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:11 pm

I have your back on that. I really think a program that doesn't go .500 in its conference should not be considered for bowls. And yes, that would leave out Minnesota, and I would be fine with that.

In fact, what irked me was that the Alamo bowl should have taken Minnesota based on how the tie-ins works. But because Iowa has a reputation of travelling its fans, it passed on the Gophers and went with the Hawkeyes.

Total bowl politics at work.
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Postby abezontar » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:09 pm

huntnfish wrote:Cavan's 6-5 was with Rossley's players and Rossley would have went 8-3 with that team. Would be the same case if Bennett is fired on the edge of turning it around.


How do you know that? Rossley went 5-7 in the same conference the prior year. What would he have suddenly done differently that would have made them that much better?
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Postby LakeHighlandsPony » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:34 pm

SmooBoy wrote:Norm also reports that Orsini is to meet with team this afternoon.


That sounds bad for Bennett.
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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:37 pm

LakeHighlandsPony wrote:
SmooBoy wrote:Norm also reports that Orsini is to meet with team this afternoon.


That sounds bad for Bennett.


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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:38 pm

PonyPride wrote:
Big10Ponyfan wrote:Because it is. Check the bottom two teams on my signature and where they are going.
OK, I don't know what kind of twisted pleasure you get out of clubbing people over the head with your family's school's conference, but I've known you for a long time, so I can't say I'm surprised that you seem to enjoy baiting people. With that said .... "your" conference has 11 teams (but hey, the "10" in the name gives them a "classic, old-school" feel!), of which exactly three are useful. Ohio State, Michigan, and to a lesser degree, the overrated Wisconsin Badgers. "huntnfish" is exactly right in his assessment of how they'd do in the SEC (or maybe even the ACC), and please don't embarrass yourself by touting the other schools in that conference. The fact that there are too many bowls does not mean that every team who goes to one is a good team, or part of a great conference. The Big 11 is as almost overrated as the Big 12.


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Postby ponyboy » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:52 pm

Big10Ponyfan wrote: And Craig Swann is a disgrace of a broadcaster.


And I've defended your posts. :evil:
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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:04 pm

ponyboy wrote:
Big10Ponyfan wrote: And Craig Swann is a disgrace of a broadcaster.


And I've defended your posts. :evil:


We don't have to agree on everything. It's just a preference. I like what you have to say. I'll put it this way, if he would stop talking over Rich Phillips and stop pounding the broadcast booth, then I could grow to enjoy him.
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Postby IHateRice » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:46 pm

There is nothing worse than Big 10 football.

Swann sucks. His rants about the officiating are a disservice to the listener. We want to know what's REALLY going on.
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Postby huntnfish » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:20 pm

[quote="abezontar"][quote="huntnfish"]Cavan's 6-5 was with Rossley's players and Rossley would have went 8-3 with that team. Would be the same case if Bennett is fired on the edge of turning it around.[/quote]

How do you know that? Rossley went 5-7 in the same conference the prior year. What would he have suddenly done differently that would have made them that much better?[/quote]

Rossley went 5-6 (3 plays away from 8-3), Ramon would have started the entire year instead of benching him for Sanders off-and-on throughout the year.
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Postby RunningStang » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:34 pm

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PhirePhilBennett wrote:How in the world is 6-6 better than 6-5 (Cavan)?


My point exactly.
Cavan's record got worse with every year of his recruiting. Bennett came in with a full house of Cavan's recruits. When it was all said, he had to field teams of freshmen and sophomores to try to rise above the 0-12 debacle and finally he is getting his recruits into the senior and junior levels. In the last few years, he has finally been able to get juco players in here to fill some holes, which was not that easy when he first got here. Given what he has been up against , he has done a pretty good job...he himself has been on a learning curve and is doing better, but not there totally yet. I vote he be given more time and a chance to improve his staffing too (OC).


Also don't forget that under Cavan, SMU was on probation because of one of Cavan's assistants. So Bennett didn't have the full number of scholarship players when he started.
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Postby Stallion » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:57 pm

there were no substantial penalties resulting from Cavan's tenure. Look Phil Bennett has had a walk on the beach compared with what Gregg, Rossley and Cavan had to endure. Not to mention a bright shiny new Stadium.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:05 pm

RunningStang wrote:Also don't forget that under Cavan, SMU was on probation because of one of Cavan's assistants. So Bennett didn't have the full number of scholarship players when he started.


Penalties regarding Malin from the NCAA:

Public reprimand and censure; two years of probation; the number of expense-paid visits to the institution's campus in football limited; reduction of the number of football coaches permitted to recruit off-campus by one during the 2001-02 academic year; vacation of team record and individual records of the student-athlete who engaged in academic fraud, further, the university's records regarding football will be reconfigured to reflect the vacation of the ten contests in which the student-athlete competed during the 1998 season and so recorded in all publications in which football records for that season are reported; show-cause against the former assistant football coach named in the report for a period of seven years; annual reports and recertification.


There was no reduction in scholarships. Man we fast and loose with the truth on this board.
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Postby RunningStang » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:12 pm

I stand corrected. Next time I'll check the facts before I form an opinion.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:20 pm

Actually, Stallion and I are wrong. There were four scholarships taken away in 2000-2001 and four more in 2001-2002. Those were self-imposed sanctions.
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Postby RunningStang » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:23 pm

I couldn't remember if the reduction was part of the probation or if it was self-imposed. Thanks for looking that up.
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