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Postby CalallenStang » Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:51 pm

perunapower wrote:
MrMustang1965 wrote:Calallen: I commend you for responding with maturity and class to posts that disagree with yours. You will be a credit to SMU when you get here and upon your graduation.


I second that. Very refreshing to see someone who can accept that there will be differing opinions and handling that in a mature fashion.


MM65 and perunapower - y'all are too kind. 8)
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Postby expony18 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:52 pm

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MrMustang1965 wrote:Calallen: I commend you for responding with maturity and class to posts that disagree with yours. You will be a credit to SMU when you get here and upon your graduation.


I second that. Very refreshing to see someone who can accept that there will be differing opinions and handling that in a mature fashion.
double true... ok so we were 5-6 this year + SHSU... next year we all should expect 7+, make a note im saying it right now we will be 7+
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Postby Phil Fan » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:30 am

MrMustang1965 wrote:Fellow PF's: This young man will be attending SMU soon. When he has that degree, I have a feeling he'll be working in the SMU Athletic Department as its SID! Bravo, Calallen! Bravo!
Does Brad Sutton know about this?
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:38 am

Phil Fan wrote:
MrMustang1965 wrote:Fellow PF's: This young man will be attending SMU soon. When he has that degree, I have a feeling he'll be working in the SMU Athletic Department as its SID! Bravo, Calallen! Bravo!
Does Brad Sutton know about this?
Brad will have moved on to 'greener pastures' by the time Calallen graduates. ;)
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Postby CalallenStang » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:05 am

MrMustang1965 wrote:
Phil Fan wrote:
MrMustang1965 wrote:Fellow PF's: This young man will be attending SMU soon. When he has that degree, I have a feeling he'll be working in the SMU Athletic Department as its SID! Bravo, Calallen! Bravo!
Does Brad Sutton know about this?
Brad will have moved on to 'greener pastures' by the time Calallen graduates. ;)


If not, I can help him out :lol:
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Postby SmartAsymptote » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:06 am

....how do you expect 7+ wins when we have a tougher schedule a pourous defense and a offensive line that couldnt block its way out of a wet paper bag....
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Postby CalallenStang » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:08 am

SmartAsymptote wrote:....how do you expect 7+ wins when we have a tougher schedule a pourous defense and a offensive line that couldnt block its way out of a wet paper bag....


I'm expecting our offense to be stronger, our defense to fix some holes, and some wins in close games instead of losses.
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Postby jtstang » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:58 am

CalallenStang wrote:I know you have no expectations, and that's what works for you as a fan. I'm fine with that. But for someone with no expectations, you sure expect a LOT out of a team who hasn't had a 6 win season since 1997.

Well, you don't get it then. I have no expectations for this team, but I do expect a fan with as much "maturity and class" as MrMustang1040EZ and that other sunshiner attribute to you to put the koolaid down for a second and take an objective look at the real world. Your suggestion that Bennett's "style" is to "improve slowly through baby steps" is nothing more than a guy making an excuse for a five year record of 14-1,874 who just got stuck with the same coach for another year. Have a different opinon if you like, hell even like and pull for Bennett. But please do not delude yourself that our dismal last five years is going precisely according to the coach's style. By all accounts you're better than that.
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Postby CalallenStang » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:29 am

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CalallenStang wrote:I know you have no expectations, and that's what works for you as a fan. I'm fine with that. But for someone with no expectations, you sure expect a LOT out of a team who hasn't had a 6 win season since 1997.

Well, you don't get it then. I have no expectations for this team, but I do expect a fan with as much "maturity and class" as MrMustang1040EZ and that other sunshiner attribute to you to put the koolaid down for a second and take an objective look at the real world. Your suggestion that Bennett's "style" is to "improve slowly through baby steps" is nothing more than a guy making an excuse for a five year record of 14-1,874 who just got stuck with the same coach for another year. Have a different opinon if you like, hell even like and pull for Bennett. But please do not delude yourself that our dismal last five years is going precisely according to the coach's style. By all accounts you're better than that.


"MrMustang1040EZ" Now that's funny! :lol:

I do not deny that there are some aspects we need to improve in. My original post notes that I believe we need a change at offensive coordinator. However, I do believe that Bennett has this program where he wants it at this point in time, and if you look at the history of other coaches who have slowly made progress during their first few years at a school, they tend to build successful programs. Look, I could be wrong, but I don't believe that you fire a coach who is continuing to deliver better records than the year before.
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Postby jtstang » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:41 am

CalallenStang wrote:However, I do believe that Bennett has this program where he wants it at this point in time....

That is tantamount to saying Bennett did not want to go to a bowl this year or last or the year before.
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Re: Orsini made right decision...again

Postby dcpony » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:49 am

CalallenStang wrote:TCU in 2001 was 6-6 and in 2004 was 5-6...they are not exactly the models of consistent winning they make themselves out to be



TCU has been to a bowl game 9 or 8 times out the past 10 years.....Yeah that's not consistent winning.
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Postby CalallenStang » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:53 am

jtstang wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:However, I do believe that Bennett has this program where he wants it at this point in time....

That is tantamount to saying Bennett did not want to go to a bowl this year or last or the year before.


Not necessarily...I think a bowl game would have been icing on the cake for him, but he achieved his main goals over the past two seasons.

TCU has been to a bowl game 9 or 8 times out the past 10 years.....Yeah that's not consistent winning.


If you were to hear them talk, you'd think they haven't lost more than 2 games in a year since 1997.
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Postby dcpony » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:10 am

If you were to hear them talk, you'd think they haven't lost more than 2 games in a year since 1997.


I'd brag about appearing in a bowl 8 of the past 10 years. Very few programs can claim that distinction.
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Postby Big10Ponyfan » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:52 am

jtstang wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:I know you have no expectations, and that's what works for you as a fan. I'm fine with that. But for someone with no expectations, you sure expect a LOT out of a team who hasn't had a 6 win season since 1997.

Well, you don't get it then. I have no expectations for this team, but I do expect a fan with as much "maturity and class" as MrMustang1040EZ and that other sunshiner attribute to you to put the koolaid down for a second and take an objective look at the real world. Your suggestion that Bennett's "style" is to "improve slowly through baby steps" is nothing more than a guy making an excuse for a five year record of 14-1,874 who just got stuck with the same coach for another year. Have a different opinon if you like, hell even like and pull for Bennett. But please do not delude yourself that our dismal last five years is going precisely according to the coach's style. By all accounts you're better than that.


I was surprised. I didn't think Phil was going to survive this. And perhaps Orsini didn't like the coaching crop that was out there or his guy didn't become available.

And maybe the idea of paying two buyouts (Tubbs and Bennett) at the same time was just something that the school didn't want to do. Right or wrong, you have to consider that.

Bennett blew it with this schedule this year. But there better be an offseason from hell and a focus like no other. If we roll out any duds next year like we did for UNT, you could get a Ken Bunting (fired UNC) situation on your hands.

And we can all agree on this: The proof of Bennett's infrastructure will be revealed against Tech, TCU, So. Miss, UCF, Houston and Tulsa (EDIT: although UH is losing QB Kevin Kolb and UTEP (home game) is losing QB Jordan Palmer and Tulane (home game) is losing QB Lester Ricard -- just thought we should know this).

We know TCU, Houston and Tulsa and 2 of the 3 (So. Miss, UCF, Memphis)will be on the road.

So this program better bring it in 2007. No excuses for the staff. Get it done or Get out!
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Postby perunapower » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:00 am

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jtstang wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:I know you have no expectations, and that's what works for you as a fan. I'm fine with that. But for someone with no expectations, you sure expect a LOT out of a team who hasn't had a 6 win season since 1997.

Well, you don't get it then. I have no expectations for this team, but I do expect a fan with as much "maturity and class" as MrMustang1040EZ and that other sunshiner attribute to you to put the koolaid down for a second and take an objective look at the real world. Your suggestion that Bennett's "style" is to "improve slowly through baby steps" is nothing more than a guy making an excuse for a five year record of 14-1,874 who just got stuck with the same coach for another year. Have a different opinon if you like, hell even like and pull for Bennett. But please do not delude yourself that our dismal last five years is going precisely according to the coach's style. By all accounts you're better than that.


I was surprised. I didn't think Phil was going to survive this. And perhaps Orsini didn't like the coaching crop that was out there or his guy didn't become available.

And maybe the idea of paying two buyouts (Tubbs and Bennett) at the same time was just something that the school didn't want to do. Right or wrong, you have to consider that.

Bennett blew it with this schedule this year. But there better be an offseason from hell and a focus like no other. If we roll out any duds next year like we did for UNT, you could get a Ken Bunting (fired UNC) situation on your hands.

And we can all agree on this: The proof of Bennett's infrastructure will be revealed against Tech, TCU, So. Miss, UCF, Houston and Tulsa (although UH and Tulsa are losing their QBs -- doesn't matter but I thought I'd throw that in there).

We know TCU, Houston and Tulsa and 2 of the 3 (So. Miss, UCF, Memphis)will be on the road.

So this program better bring it in 2007. No excuses for the staff. Get it done or Get out!


Tulsa's Paul Smith is a junior, so unless he is drafted into the NFL he's sticking around for another year.
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