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Postby Webmaster » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:31 pm

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Postby mustangnation » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:55 pm

My guess is that they hired Vic Viloria as the new strength coach.
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Postby mustang06 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:10 pm

I have been expecting this news for quite a while. Faucette was a fun guy, but really wasn't that awesome of a strength coach. He was more like a friend to the players than a coach. If Vic was hired then he will bring a new level of seriousness and intensity to the weight room. LSU has a SERIOUS weight program and I expect that he will bring the same techniques and theories to SMU.
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Postby PerunaPunch » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:36 pm

Wow....

mustang06, I'm going to have to stand up for coach Faucette on this one. When Faucette came to SMU, our team strength compared to our opponents was pathetic. Laughable if it wasn't so true. I think on the team there was maybe two guys that could bench 400. Now we have running backs and linebackers that routinely bench 400, and more linemen than not are at or over 400.

Look at guys like Cory Muse and Justin Rogers who came here as pip-squeaks. Faucette turned them into monsters.

You can say whatever you want about Faucette's attitude. But saying he isn't "an awesome strength coach" is flat out wrong. In fact, he's one of the most highly regarded people in the industry.

All that being said, I'm pretty jazzed if it's true that Vic is rejoining the Mustangs. On the flip side of the coin, he doesn't have Faucette's pedigree, but nobody will ever question Vic's intensity.
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Postby MustangIcon » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:49 pm

PerunaPunch wrote:Look at guys like Cory Muse and Justin Rogers who came here as pip-squeaks. Faucette turned them into monsters.


Great examples. Don Ieremia-Stansbury would be another example. A guy who came to SMU at what 200 pounds and left at over 250 I believe.
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Postby expony18 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:57 pm

PerunaPunch wrote:Wow....

mustang06, I'm going to have to stand up for coach Faucette on this one. When Faucette came to SMU, our team strength compared to our opponents was pathetic. Laughable if it wasn't so true. I think on the team there was maybe two guys that could bench 400. Now we have running backs and linebackers that routinely bench 400, and more linemen than not are at or over 400.

Look at guys like Cory Muse and Justin Rogers who came here as pip-squeaks. Faucette turned them into monsters.

You can say whatever you want about Faucette's attitude. But saying he isn't "an awesome strength coach" is flat out wrong. In fact, he's one of the most highly regarded people in the industry.

All that being said, I'm pretty jazzed if it's true that Vic is rejoining the Mustangs. On the flip side of the coin, he doesn't have Faucette's pedigree, but nobody will ever question Vic's intensity.
I for one am glad that he's gone... he was a good guy and the players liked him... but i wasn't that impressed with him. he really didn't push the guys the way a program trying to get to the top should be pushed. I'm happy for Vic and glad he's back, he will have a lot more control and respect in the weight room then Chuck ever did! And don't think that it was the strength coach that pushed Don, Rogers, and the other guys to get to where they were... they were driven guys who wanted to be players. And if you were in the weight room during those days you would agree that he should be gone... now if you wanted a strength coach that you would see out at the bars on the weeked he was ur guy
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Postby mustangfan01 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:41 pm

Interesting.


From what I have heard, it is the complete opposite. Faucette was under fire at the end of last year too and the players signed a petition for the dept to keep him around -- not that it mattered.

Having heard that, I find it hard to believe all of the players in your day were so anti-Faucette expony...but, then again, you were there. Awkward situation.


Grats to Vic but he has some big shoes to fill with the players and the pedigree Chuck had.
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Postby Stallion » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:01 pm

...and of course, Vic Viloria is the best man for the job SMU could find in the entire country because he is "loyal" to Phil Bennett.
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Postby mustang06 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:09 pm

Of course the players liked Chuck and wanted him to stay. He was more one of them than he was a coach. Also, the man that the players that wanted to get stronger worked with was assistant strength coach Courtney Ray. He was a much better strength coach than Chuck and is deserving of a head strength coaching position somewhere.
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Postby OC Mustang » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:00 pm

Stallion wrote:...and of course, Vic Viloria is the best man for the job SMU could find in the entire country because he is "loyal" to Phil Bennett.


Stallion believes in a meritocracy. The best guy should get the job, not the "most loyal".

Is there a "between the lines" here? Was Faucette "disloyal"?
He is clearly more experienced than Vic, right?

Just humming aloud...dum dee dum dum dum.

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Postby OC Mustang » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:03 pm

mustang06 wrote:Of course the players liked Chuck and wanted him to stay. He was more one of them than he was a coach. Also, the man that the players that wanted to get stronger worked with was assistant strength coach Courtney Ray. He was a much better strength coach than Chuck and is deserving of a head strength coaching position somewhere.


So has Courtney "Ghostbusters" Ray (okay, is a stretch, but I just don't have good material to work with here) left the building, or does he get to stay?
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Postby PlanoStang » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:04 pm

All I know is that a coach who seemed more like one of us led my Jr.
high team to an undefeated season. He later led doormat Nacogdoches
HS to it's first district championship, and the playoffs in a lot of years as
a head coach. He ended up retiring as AD at SFA a year or 2 ago.

My guess is it's a dum dee dum dumb move with a young inexperienced
ex SMU LB taking over as strength coach.
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Postby that's great raplh » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:38 pm

best wishes to chuck

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Postby expony18 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:52 pm

mustang06 wrote:Of course the players liked Chuck and wanted him to stay. He was more one of them than he was a coach. Also, the man that the players that wanted to get stronger worked with was assistant strength coach Courtney Ray. He was a much better strength coach than Chuck and is deserving of a head strength coaching position somewhere.
exactly he was more like the players and not a coach!! acting like an 18-22 year old... and you just backed up my point with brining up courtney... he's a great guy and a great COACH
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Postby expony18 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:54 pm

mustangfan01 wrote:Interesting.


From what I have heard, it is the complete opposite. Faucette was under fire at the end of last year too and the players signed a petition for the dept to keep him around -- not that it mattered.

Having heard that, I find it hard to believe all of the players in your day were so anti-Faucette expony...but, then again, you were there. Awkward situation.


Grats to Vic but he has some big shoes to fill with the players and the pedigree Chuck had.
im not saying i didnt like him, because i did.. i just don't feel that he did a good job pushing everyone. i was suprised when i was a freshmen how he didnt even care if the juniors/seniors were doing there workouts, most of the time he was siting there shooting the [deleted] with them in his office...
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