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by PK » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:41 am

EastStang wrote:You know these institutes have a way of evolving over time. 75 years from now, after we're all dead and gone, who knows what it will be like. I suspect it will look like any other academic institute. Handing out grants and issuing papers and funding research. But the long term view is that people will still come to SMU to do that research, and it will have a good air conditioning system when the ambient tempertures in Dallas are 157 degrees.

Thanks Al.

by **crazy horse** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:03 pm

jtstang wrote:A university should avoid engagin ing partisan politics. The "policy institute" which will be on SMU's campus with no control by SMU is wholly partisan. To the extent people are concerned, not about the library, but the Dubya sunshine school, I think they are perfectly right to be. I think it is unfair for Dubya to make them a "package deal" but I guess it's his toy....

I'm confused. When are politics not partisan? If you are a liberal, there is your worldview and then everything else is evil. I've really never encountered a true nonpartisan worldview. And who would determine what is "nonpartisan" - liberal professors?

If I'm building a library and policy center I certainly would want it to reflect my beliefs and worldview, not some liberal professors' beliefs. But that's just me.

This whole faculty protest and the many "soul at stake" quotes make SMU look far worse than any library or policy institute ever could or will. If anything, we should be happy to get a small beachhead of conservatism on a campus enclosed by an iron curtain of liberalism. Let students have access to a variety of viewpoints. I would think in the end that would make them much better members of society.

And to Eaststang...we'll just have to plant enough trees to offset our carbon footprint. It works for Al, it just might work for us to.

by **Nacho** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:14 pm

If you don't believe in global warming you really should watch something besides Fox news. It's not a liberal or a conservative opinion. It is a fact. Any scientist worth anything knows it's true. BTW the sun does not revolve around the Earth and the Earth is not 600,000 thousnad years old.

by **mrydel** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:24 pm

Refs cause global warming!!

by PK » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:05 pm

Nacho wrote:If you don't believe in global warming you really should watch something besides Fox news. It's not a liberal or a conservative opinion. It is a fact. Any scientist worth anything knows it's true. BTW the sun does not revolve around the Earth and the Earth is not 600,000 thousnad years old.

What, is global warming now a new religion...something one believes in? Global warming may be a fact or may not be a fact, but here are a few thoughts to ponder...the earth has been through a number of climate cycles through the ages all of which were many years longer in time frame than any of us or our children will live through; the earth has been warming up since the end of the last (not only) ice age; in the early 1950s (well into the industrial revolution) all the prominent scientist were just positive that we were at the beginning of a new ice age. Go figure. BTW, latest data supposedly shows that the surface of mars is getting hotter...does anybody think that just maybe the sun might be putting out a little more heat these days...perhaps going through one of its thousand year cycles. Hmmmm?

Oh yeah, I don't watch Fox news...I get my news and information from network news, NPR, DMN and the Dallas Observer. How about you?

by **smupony94** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:27 pm

Nacho wrote:If you don't believe in global warming you really should watch something besides Fox news. It's not a liberal or a conservative opinion. It is a fact. Any scientist worth anything knows it's true. BTW the sun does not revolve around the Earth and the Earth is not 600,000 thousnad years old.

The earth is not flat????

by **jtstang** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:28 pm

crazy horse wrote:I'm confused. When are politics not partisan? If you are a liberal, there is your worldview and then everything else is evil. I've really never encountered a true nonpartisan worldview. And who would determine what is "nonpartisan" - liberal professors?

If I'm building a library and policy center I certainly would want it to reflect my beliefs and worldview, not some liberal professors' beliefs. But that's just me.

You indeed are confused. Nobody is proposing we build a liberal professor policy center instead of the Dubya love school. Just no policy center at all. If SMU wants to ensure students get an even keel and the faculty is too liberal, SMU should hire the faculty needed to balance the spectrum. It should not sponsor an independent evangelical right-wing think tank on campus over which it will have zero control. That is contrary to its mission as a university.

by **jtstang** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:29 pm

And the cracks in my backyard last summer were a fact.

by PK » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:34 pm

Wouldn't touch that remark with a ten foot pole.

by **jtstang** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:44 pm

Backyard, PK. You naughty boy.

by **Nacho** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:58 pm

PK my dear uninformed boy please go to Blockbluster tonight and check out An Inconvenient Truth. I get my news from LB.

by **mrydel** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:04 pm

Nacho wrote:PK my dear uninformed boy please go to Blockbluster tonight and check out An Inconvenient Truth. I get my news from LB.

The main inconvenience with the truth is the lack of ALL the facts.

Also check out a copy of the original Planet of the Apes. We all kill each other off anyway so what does global warming matter. Damn dirty apes.

by **MustangIcon** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:07 pm

Nacho wrote: It's not a liberal or a conservative opinion. It is a fact.

Fact like your opinion of what a ticky-tack foul is or actual fact. Just trying to stay on the same page with you.

by PK » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:31 pm

Nacho wrote:PK my dear uninformed boy please go to Blockbluster tonight and check out An Inconvenient Truth. I get my news from LB.

Sorry, but it is just too inconvenient. I hardly think Al "I invented the internet" Gore is the source I want to use to get the facts from. Thanks for the invitation anyway. And BTW let's not get confused between the phenomenon and the causes. Global warming probably is a fact as I alluded to in my earlier post, but any mortal who thinks he really knows why it is happening is very likely following a line of thought he wants to follow to prove a point he wants to prove...whether it is true or not. Just like statistics, one can use "science" to "prove" something true or not. A lot of it depends on your initial point of your focus and then what you include in your study and just as important what you don't include.

by PK » Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:33 pm

jtstang wrote:Backyard, PK. You naughty boy.

I know where. Like I said...

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