Arkansas coach

[Sam I Am]

Fayetteville is endsville. Talk about El Supremo let down. Creigton had better not ever schedule UA for BB. Let them eat cake.

[angryfan04]

I goto a few hog games every year. It is going to be a shock to my system not to see a well dressed pimp in the coaching seat, as i only have seen nolan and heath.

darian townes is a punk, but i would love it if he transfered here. (hes not)

Not cool

maybe not cool, but if you ever saw nolan and his flashy dress-style, you would agree that seeing merv the perv on the sidelines would be a mind-blower. The hogs may NOT have the Doh.

How about stupid instead of not cool. Nolan wore polka dots because his little girl who passed away liked them. You're an idiot for calling him and Heath pimps.

[mrydel]

Altman is being thanked by some of the local media for not exposing the truth as to why he changed his mind. Seems he talked with local High Schools and UA Professors and got the low down on the academic standards, or rather lack thereof, at UA, and determined he could lose all credibility as a coach and as a person if he took the job. Seems his standards of decency and ethics are a little too high for Arkansas. I am sure it will all come out, but for Arkansas's sake, at this time, it is good that Altman just said "family reasons" and left it at that.

Also, Broyles has been relieved of being a one man selection committee and it has been turned over to an executive search firm from Atlanta. Guess he is back at the Masters.

[Nacho]

Sometimes it best to stay where you are happy rather than go to place simply to make more money. Arkansas will still get a good coach. Talk about back in the day. Does anyone remember Billy Hunter and his one day stay with the Rangers? Alter and I have one thing in common--we have never spent more than one night in Arkansas.

[Original Frank]

So I guess that makes four of us that don't believe Ark is a top ten all-time bball program. Besides me, add Gillespie, Calipari, and now someone named Altman. (I guess there are five of us if you add Altman's wife.)

[mrydel]

So I guess that makes four of us that don't believe Ark is a top ten all-time bball program. Besides me, add Gillespie, Calipari, and now someone named Altman. (I guess there are five of us if you add Altman's wife.)

That makes a lot of sense. I am not going to coach Kentucky so I guess that means it is not top 10 either.

In an effort to show from where I got the information which indicates Arkansas as a top 10 all time program, I offer the following web site:

http://daresler.net/info/top/basketball-programs/

I do not endorse, subscribe to, advocate, or in any way support this site. It is merely a report based on what appears to be valid statistics that show Arkansas as number 8 all time program using the statistics provided. SMU is 71 if I remember correctly.

[EastStang]

I'm glad that old fossil Broyles looks somewhat bad in this. He is on my list of the people I'd most like to see fail.

[Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex]

Does anyone remember Billy Hunter and his one day stay with the Rangers?

I believe that was Eddie Stanky. Hunter was the last of 4 managers that year(1977) to finish out the season only to get axed at the end of the 1978 season.

[Stallion]

yeah if you are into the blame game for the destruction of the SWC Broyles would be at the top of the list. I personally believe that the state schools were entirely justified by disbanding the SWC and the blame really lies at the feet of the administrations of SMU, TCU, Rice and UH for not recognizing the essential value of the SWC membership and big-time college athletics by properly commiting to their programs and essentially riding the coattails of the state schools. Maybe they did weigh that factor but just made business decision that it wasn't worth the cost of commitment which is an interesting debate-either way SMU, TCU, Rice and UH have no one to blame but themselves and the state schools are without question better off by disbanding the SWC.

[Water Pony]

yeah if you are into the blame game for the destruction of the SWC Broyles would be at the top of the list. I personally believe that the state schools were entirely justified by disbanding the SWC and the blame really lies at the feet of the administrations of SMU, TCU, Rice and UH for not recognizing the essential value of the SWC membership and big-time college athletics by properly commiting to their programs and essentially riding the coattails of the state schools. Maybe they did weigh that factor but just made business decision that it wasn't worth the cost of commitment which is an interesting debate-either way SMU, TCU, Rice and UH have no one to blame but themselves and the state schools are without question better off by disbanding the SWC.

On target. Just look at Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, Stanford, etc. to see the benefits of long coattail$ in a BCS conference. You could add Baylor, Wake Forest, Miami, BC and USC as well.

[EastStang]

On target. Just look at Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, Stanford, etc. to see the benefits of long coattail$ in a BCS conference. You could add Baylor, Wake Forest, Miami, BC and USC as well.

Umm, I hope you were being tongue in cheek, Wake Forest won the ACC in football last year, thus earning a BCS payday for the Conference. Vandy went to the sweet sixteen in basketball. Duke has probably earned as many NCAA basketball tournament units for the conference as any other team in the last 20 years. They carry their weight. Stanford has like SMU been dominant in Olympic sports, but they clearly do well in basketball over the past 20 years and have shown occasional life in football. I agree with Stallion that we did nothing to watch our own backs and in essence de-emphasized sports during the '90s while cashing the checks. But I guess to put my ivory tower view out there, there are things in life worth more than money. Traditions and rivalries may be one of those. I am not sure that UT is better off in the Big XII. I mean is playing Kansas, Iowa State, K State and Colorado these days that much different from playing Rice, SMU, TCU and Houston? Travel costs more, UT fans can't go to all of the away games as easily. 1200 miles from Austin to Iowa and what 1000 miles to Boulder. There are intangibles that were given up for TV $$$$. The Cotton Bowl is now a tier 2 bowl from a major bowl. Is that good for the State of Texas? And of course the whole BCS split is doing wonders for Division 1 football.

[Water Pony]

On target. Just look at Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, Stanford, etc. to see the benefits of long coattail$ in a BCS conference. You could add Baylor, Wake Forest, Miami, BC and USC as well.

Umm, I hope you were being tongue in cheek, Wake Forest won the ACC in football last year, thus earning a BCS payday for the Conference. Vandy went to the sweet sixteen in basketball. Duke has probably earned as many NCAA basketball tournament units for the conference as any other team in the last 20 years. They carry their weight. Stanford has like SMU been dominant in Olympic sports, but they clearly do well in basketball over the past 20 years and have shown occasional life in football. I agree with Stallion that we did nothing to watch our own backs and in essence de-emphasized sports during the '90s while cashing the checks. But I guess to put my ivory tower view out there, there are things in life worth more than money. Traditions and rivalries may be one of those. I am not sure that UT is better off in the Big XII. I mean is playing Kansas, Iowa State, K State and Colorado these days that much different from playing Rice, SMU, TCU and Houston? Travel costs more, UT fans can't go to all of the away games as easily. 1200 miles from Austin to Iowa and what 1000 miles to Boulder. There are intangibles that were given up for TV $$$$. The Cotton Bowl is now a tier 2 bowl from a major bowl. Is that good for the State of Texas? And of course the whole BCS split is doing wonders for Division 1 football.

Eaststang,

My point was not that a private school can't compete. Your examples make my point that privates within a BCS conference have advantages that privates outside (Mid-Major conference) don't. Stallion suggested that the SWC privates made a mistake in not being more aware and accountable to the state schools in the old SWCs by spending more and buildiing a stronger athletic foundation (fans, revenue, number of teams, etc.) I agree with that.

Hard lesson to learn, which we will be paying a high price well into the future as a private in a Mid-major. In reality, we can never consistently be in the Top 25 without the inherent, sustainable benefits of a BCS member school. Money (revenue) talks, BS walks.

As much as I don't like the outcome, the SWC privates, especially SMU and Rice, didn't appreciate how good we had it with the SWC.

[EastStang]

Thanks for the clarification. Yes, $$$$ do help small private schools stay competitive in all sports not necessarily football and basketball. Look at Baylor track and baseball. Two sports we can't have because we don't have the $$$$ to fund them. Stanford swimming, golf, tennis cross country are clearly helped by funding for additional scholarships. We give fewer scholarships in those sports than they do. Duke has a #1 ranked Men's lacrosse team (now that they're out of jail). BCS funding helps that. I guess we are lucky that we be as competitive as we are. I'm sure Texas, Arkansas, A&M and Tech are happy as pigs in snot with their BCS checks. We did and will continue to pay a price for our hubris both before and after the death penalty.

[Stallion]

No team in the entire nation has benefitted more than UT from conference realignment. The record speaks for itself. The financial package at UT is astounding since the breakup of the SWC. UT has probably 1-3 in winning percentage in the last 6 years- a full 4-5 years of recruiting classes since the breakup. The forgotten element is recruiting which suffered from a national recruiting perspective in the late 80s and 90s because the SWC was perceived by most Texas recruits as an inferior conference. The Big 12 made UT the biggest fish again in the most fertile recruiting territory in the nation. It didn't take a genius in 1995 to understand that the Big 12 South and especially UT would soon dominate the North because of its "home recruiting advantage"

[EastStang]

Yeah, but the fact is that the Big 12 could have been the SWC plus OU, OSU and Neb. Imagine, that alignment. OU, Neb, Ark, SMU, TCU, Baylor
UT, OSU, TT, Rice, UH, A&M. The big fishes are OU, UT, A&M and possibly NE in the Big XII. The rest could be any teams you picked. I'd bet with those four teams, you add the MWC less Wyoming, it would be a big time conference.