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Postby mrydel » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:37 am

Stallion wrote:Texas Open Records Act


Start the chant......TORA! TORA! TORA!
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Postby jtstang » Wed May 23, 2007 3:08 pm

friarwolf wrote:A little birdie says a report is soon forthcoming...................

friarwolf, any more news from your bird friend lately on this issue?
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Postby Treadway21 » Wed May 23, 2007 9:38 pm

A birdie told me no one gives a flip except jtstang, but I am not sure it is the same bird.
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Postby jtstang » Thu May 24, 2007 6:44 am

Treadway21 wrote:A birdie told me no one gives a flip except jtstang, but I am not sure it is the same bird.

I've got a bird for you right now. Just kidding. Why don't you care whether the SMU AD told a bold faced lie to you?
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Thu May 24, 2007 10:24 am

That AD stunk and is no longer here, btw. But, yes, he was apparently lying. The question is whether he was lying for himself or for Orsini? Either way, this looks like they were just trying to fix the awful mistake they made in hiring the guy in the first place. Too bad they didn't have the cajones just to do it straight.
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Postby ponyplayer » Thu May 24, 2007 10:28 am

mrydel wrote:
Stallion wrote:Texas Open Records Act


Start the chant......TORA! TORA! TORA!


good movie.................................
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Postby jtstang » Thu May 24, 2007 10:33 am

SMU Football Blog wrote: Too bad they didn't have the cajones just to do it straight.

That's the thing that ticks me off the most about all of this. The old bait and switch. Let's create a diversion over here with burgers and Cheer and then fire him for that so that nobody notices it was really because of his record over two years. Pathetic.
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Postby PonyKai » Thu May 24, 2007 10:37 am

I understand your complaint about the whole thing, and in principle I agree with it, but how much would you expect to be made known with all the turnover that occured after the 'fiasco' took place?
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Postby jtstang » Thu May 24, 2007 11:41 am

Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:I understand your complaint about the whole thing, and in principle I agree with it, but how much would you expect to be made known with all the turnover that occured after the 'fiasco' took place?

All of the truth. Why should we expect less?
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Postby ponydawg » Thu May 24, 2007 11:47 am

jtstang wrote:
Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:I understand your complaint about the whole thing, and in principle I agree with it, but how much would you expect to be made known with all the turnover that occured after the 'fiasco' took place?

All of the truth. Why should we expect less?


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Postby PonyKai » Thu May 24, 2007 11:48 am

I may want the whole truth, but I may also expect that the new administration would want to sweep it under the rug quietly and efficiently, especially if it was improperly handled on SMU's part. It's not neccessarily that they're trying to hide it, but it could be something detrimental, but has no affect on the present or the future, so why let the skeletons out of the closet?
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Postby jtstang » Thu May 24, 2007 11:49 am

But do you know what the definition of "is" is?
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Postby EastStang » Thu May 24, 2007 1:49 pm

One of those highly litigated words no doubt. I guess from my perspective is that the story provided them cover to fire him (probably because of his bad record) and be able to tell prospective coaches that they will have longer than 2 years to turn things around as long as they play by the rules, and that we only pulled the trigger because of this NCAA problem. Of course given the rate at which coaches are whoring themselves out from school to school and walking away from long contracts, I can understand why a school might not be totally honest. Remember, "Hi, my name is Gillespie and I want to be the Arkansas head coach, but I can't talk to you until you have a vacancy. You have a vacancy, great. I'm there. I'm sorry, the Aggies just opened the bank so I'm staying at College Station. Oh there's an opening at Kentucky, never mind".
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Postby George S. Patton » Thu May 24, 2007 2:39 pm

Personally, I don't care what the result is. Prior to Doherty, we had an incompetent coach in there. Had no administrative skills on how to run a Division I program.

He was in over his head. Nice man. Bad choice. As far as I'm concerned, if this was a witch hunt to find a reason to get rid of him, AMEN!! Cut your losses and get out.

And this isn't the first place in athletics where this has happened. See what Tennessee did to Buzz Peterson because everybody hated the guy so much.
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Postby PonyKai » Thu May 24, 2007 2:47 pm

I agree with most of what you said there. I think Tubb's was a poor choice and that was just validated with the state of the program after two years of his leadership. That said I wouldn't want an administration, government or otherwise, that thinks they can get away with doing whatever they want, however they want, whenever they want, and for whatever reason they want. As students, alumni, supporters of athletics, and stakeholders, albeit minor, in the department, we are entitled to answers to our questions. We do have the right to know, even if it doesn't matter. Perhaps jtstang just isn't enough weight to rattle the department into action.
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