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by PonySnob » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:25 am
Stallion wrote:I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Please Corey Slater had his chance and blew it-he stunk up the place against UTEP. What did SMU have at halftime of his big break-I want to say 10 yards Total Offense. Great job Corey. He never performed at a high level at SMU including spring games. He's quite frankly is lucky SMU was desperate enough to give a third tier Division 1AA QB a chance. Corey Slater deserved to sit his [deleted] on the bench because he never came close to performing at the level of Justin Willis. He's another that has left SMU in a tough situation-but if Corey Slater was going to be the QB SMU wasn't going anywhere anyway.
Best post about the whole Corey Slater situation!
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by ponyboy » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:27 am
There's nothing good about that post unless you give points for mean spiritedness. Corey was a more than capable backup and I, for one, wish him well wherever he ends up.
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by PonyKai » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:28 am
Truth hurts.
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by ponyboy » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:34 am
Few came close to performing at Justin Willis' level in the nation. Slater was a more than capable backup and he will be missed.
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by PhirePhilBennett » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:41 am
PonySnob wrote:Stallion wrote:I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Please Corey Slater had his chance and blew it-he stunk up the place against UTEP. What did SMU have at halftime of his big break-I want to say 10 yards Total Offense. Great job Corey. He never performed at a high level at SMU including spring games. He's quite frankly is lucky SMU was desperate enough to give a third tier Division 1AA QB a chance. Corey Slater deserved to sit his [deleted] on the bench because he never came close to performing at the level of Justin Willis. He's another that has left SMU in a tough situation-but if Corey Slater was going to be the QB SMU wasn't going anywhere anyway.
Best post about the whole Corey Slater situation!
I don't consider handing him the game ball on Friday afternoon without practicing with the first team "giving him his chance."
This is another case of mismanagement by Bennett, regardless of how good Corey Slater was. Bennett didn't play him AT ALL in the final five games - why?
There were several times he SHOULD have played him - if for nothing else that resting Willis' mind (so that he is more focused next time he is in the game) and determining whether Corey would EVER be a good QB.
And, this comment wouldn't be complete without mentioning that Bennett himselft ADMITTED to this last fall "Yeah, we should have played Corey more...that's my fault." -PB
Yeah, it is. PB is the man of excuses. Should have kept Johnney at RB.
Folks, it wasn't his fault that the banjo man left for the rock band, or the Accountant with kid left for E&Y...but after you start seeing QB after QB (or RB, or LB) leave this program, time after time...and it's NEVER his fault...you need to start questioning the management style as to whether that is a significant factor.
4 years ago a coaches father was complaining that Bennett was a 'yelling' coach - disrespectful, etc....I backed PB then, but it sure rings hollow now.
Defections are contagious. And the disease may be PB.
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by PonySnob » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:00 am
PhirePhilBennett wrote:Defections are contagious. And the disease may be PB.
Hopefully Bennett is not on the verge of losing this team........
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by PhirePhilBennett » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:10 am
Maybe we can get ERIC JOHNSON back...
Anyone have a list of defection QBs under Bennett?
Eric Johnson
Corey Slater
that 3A Golf guy -
Richard Bartel (signed with Cowboys)
That ENNIS QB converted to TE, signed by Cavan late
Invited Walk-on that transferred to Tech
David Page
Kelen Luker
who else?
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by WorldStang » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:19 am
Where I see your point about defections.. this is not that unheard of in programs across the country. You're looking at a kid (Reggie Carrington) that would have had a 6th year of eligiblity.. when everyone else he's played with is gone. There's life after football for these guys.. and at SMU the cold hard facts are that it's in the business world.. not the NFL.
Sure there's been the kid that left the team because he wanted to pursue things with his band. Yes.. he's moved kids around and should have probably kept some kids in their same positions or never moved them around. But he's trying to fill-in holes where he can. When you've got a kid that's as athletic as Fitzgerald, for instance, and you're loaded at RB "supposedly" with Dorsey, Fred Turner and Martin.. why not look at putting "your best athlete on the team" in an area where he would be on the field in more situations? Bennett was strapped with trying to work with what he had in some instances.. now I don't think this is the case.
You're going to see turnover.. some kids leaving and some kids transfering in.. ie Sergio, KJ Ellis, etc..
Wish Slater well.. but I agree with some of you.. not that big of a loss. Carrington hurts more.. but it's time for someone to step-up and let's see what Bennett can bring from the kids he's recruited.
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by Stallion » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:37 am
Where were you guys 7 years ago when I made the same points with regard to Mike Cavan. At least I'll be consistent-no the number of defections especially at QB from the SMU program are not unusual or extraordinary in college football
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by EastStang » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:12 pm
First, Stallion, we could hope the guy improved with another year. However, to address that he didn't get a chance in the last five games comment, which of the games would you have pulled Willis. ECU, UAB, Tulsa, Rice, or UH. All of those games were still in play well into the 4th quarter. He might have gotten reps on one possession. Big deal. In all honesty, I would have pretty much left Willis out there because you want Willis to get as many reps as possible as a freshman to see different schemes, defenses and adjustments.
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by PhirePhilBennett » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:19 pm
Stallion wrote:Where were you guys 7 years ago when I made the same points with regard to Mike Cavan. At least I'll be consistent-no the number of defections especially at QB from the SMU program are not unusual or extraordinary in college football
They are in light of how many STARTERS or POTENTIAL STARTERS have left....
We're not talking about a disgruntled 4th string guys, or Freshman with big egos (Avery Cleveland and Richuel Massey would have both been starters due to injury last year; Corey was the #2 guy with 2 years to play)
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by PhirePhilBennett » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:25 pm
EastStang wrote:First, Stallion, we could hope the guy improved with another year. However, to address that he didn't get a chance in the last five games comment, which of the games would you have pulled Willis. ECU, UAB, Tulsa, Rice, or UH. All of those games were still in play well into the 4th quarter. He might have gotten reps on one possession. Big deal. In all honesty, I would have pretty much left Willis out there because you want Willis to get as many reps as possible as a freshman to see different schemes, defenses and adjustments.
East Carolina you EASILY could have pulled Willis. http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/boxscore?gid=200610210099
Second, you could have put Slater in series 3,4 in the first half against ANY of those teams...change of pace, etc. it's not like WILLIS is a very efficient passer.
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by George S. Patton » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:24 pm
PhirePhilBennett wrote:EastStang wrote:First, Stallion, we could hope the guy improved with another year. However, to address that he didn't get a chance in the last five games comment, which of the games would you have pulled Willis. ECU, UAB, Tulsa, Rice, or UH. All of those games were still in play well into the 4th quarter. He might have gotten reps on one possession. Big deal. In all honesty, I would have pretty much left Willis out there because you want Willis to get as many reps as possible as a freshman to see different schemes, defenses and adjustments.
East Carolina you EASILY could have pulled Willis. http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/boxscore?gid=200610210099 Second, you could have put Slater in series 3,4 in the first half against ANY of those teams...change of pace, etc. it's not like WILLIS is a very efficient passer.
This post offered by someone with a clear agenda of desiring failure for this program -- AT ANY COST!!
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by perunapower » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:40 pm
PhirePhilBennett wrote:EastStang wrote:First, Stallion, we could hope the guy improved with another year. However, to address that he didn't get a chance in the last five games comment, which of the games would you have pulled Willis. ECU, UAB, Tulsa, Rice, or UH. All of those games were still in play well into the 4th quarter. He might have gotten reps on one possession. Big deal. In all honesty, I would have pretty much left Willis out there because you want Willis to get as many reps as possible as a freshman to see different schemes, defenses and adjustments.
East Carolina you EASILY could have pulled Willis. http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/boxscore?gid=200610210099 Second, you could have put Slater in series 3,4 in the first half against ANY of those teams...change of pace, etc. it's not like WILLIS is a very efficient passer.
Would you like to take a guess at what his passer rating was last year?
He was TENTH!!! Not in C-USA mind you. In the entirety of Division I. He beat Brady Quinn, Graham Harrell, Chase Daniel, Chris Leak, James David Booty, Chad Henne, and many others. I'd say that's a pretty efficient passer. Not to mention he completed over 2/3 of his passes, broke the school record for passing touchdowns, and only had 6 interceptions. So PLEASE tell me you were being sarcastic.
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by mavsrage311 » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:03 pm
PhirePhilBennett wrote:PonySnob wrote:Stallion wrote:I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Please Corey Slater had his chance and blew it-he stunk up the place against UTEP. What did SMU have at halftime of his big break-I want to say 10 yards Total Offense. Great job Corey. He never performed at a high level at SMU including spring games. He's quite frankly is lucky SMU was desperate enough to give a third tier Division 1AA QB a chance. Corey Slater deserved to sit his [deleted] on the bench because he never came close to performing at the level of Justin Willis. He's another that has left SMU in a tough situation-but if Corey Slater was going to be the QB SMU wasn't going anywhere anyway.
Best post about the whole Corey Slater situation!
I don't consider handing him the game ball on Friday afternoon without practicing with the first team "giving him his chance." This is another case of mismanagement by Bennett, regardless of how good Corey Slater was. Bennett didn't play him AT ALL in the final five games - why?
Maaaybe because Justin Willis is hands-down the best quarterback on the team and because Bennett actually wanted to make a bowl game last year? I think if Bennett played Slater more, you would be first in line to complain about it, and why sitting Willis at all during the last 5 games cost us a bowl game.
If Justin plays against UTEP, we win...we're in a bowl. Corey Slater was ATROCIOUS vs. UTEP, i'm not the first to point this out in the thread. Stallion said it best: simply put, Corey was very fortunate to get a scholarship to any D1 school, he certainly didn't earn any playing time on merit, and showed some decent flashes of potential here and there but in the end failed to even give us anything but sub-mediocre play. Do I wish he was staying? Yes, because there's not another proven backup behind him, but the backup options behind Willis now atleast have some decent wheels and aren't dead-ducks behind our line, so that gives me some level of hope, but either way you look at it...if Justin Willis misses significant time with OR withoug Corey, we're screwed period
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