NCAA punishes OU

[LonghornFan68]

Think A&M was wishing 77-0 was 2005 and not 2003?

haha, indeed. the sad thing is, that game could have been worse.

Hold up, I think OU just scored again.

[EastStang]

Let's see major booster of the athletic department hires players to not work and pays them. Check. Athletic Department says we didn't know he did that. check. Sounds like lack on institutional control to me. But I"m just stupid that way I guess. No the Board of Governors at OU were not funding the payroll, but this is their seventh infraction. We got the DP on our seventh infraction and yes, we did lots of bad stuff, but this not an isolated violation because it occurred while they were already on probation. When you're on probation, you make sure you are extra good. You know what happens to a parolee who messes up even once, he goes back to the slammer. The Committee decided to cut OU a break and find them guilty of a lesser included offense. Why? Because they're OU and OU sues the NCAA. And they are big wimps.

[BUTitan]

all the people in Waco should be proud...they didnt finish in last place in the big xii in 2005!!!

actually that would make us finish in 4th place, oSu was in last that year...

[jtstang]

The Committee decided to cut OU a break and find them guilty of a lesser included offense. Why? Because they're OU and OU sues the NCAA. And they are big wimps.

And you and I both know that OU loses that suit. Why? Because the NCAA is a private organization and OU agreed to the rules as part of its membership. If you don't like their rules, go join the NAIA. If you could successfully sue the NCAA, don't you think SMU would have back in 1987? Hell we could have funded it with the money we werre saving from the slush fund.

I'm not saying there was no slack cut. I do not think this rises to the level of precedent necessary to get the death penalty, but clearly these charges and resulting sanctions were de minimus. But I doubt the slack had anything to do with a potential lawsuit.

[J.T.supporta]

[quote="BUTitan"][quote="J.T.supporta"]all the people in Waco should be proud...they didnt finish in last place in the big xii in 2005!!![/quote]

actually that would make us finish in 4th place, oSu was in last that year...[/quote]

Thanks for the correction BUTitan

[George S. Patton]

The Committee decided to cut OU a break and find them guilty of a lesser included offense. Why? Because they're OU and OU sues the NCAA. And they are big wimps.

And you and I both know that OU loses that suit. Why? Because the NCAA is a private organization and OU agreed to the rules as part of its membership. If you don't like their rules, go join the NAIA. If you could successfully sue the NCAA, don't you think SMU would have back in 1987? Hell we could have funded it with the money we werre saving from the slush fund.

I'm not saying there was no slack cut. I do not think this rises to the level of precedent necessary to get the death penalty, but clearly these charges and resulting sanctions were de minimus. But I doubt the slack had anything to do with a potential lawsuit.

When it comes to suing the NCAA, somebody needs to go talk former UNLV basketball coach Jerry Tarkanian and on how you can successfully go after them.

[EastStang]

In anti-trust actions its OU 1 - NCAA 0. Remember it was OU who got the NCAA out of the television business in football and gave us that monster the BCS by suing the NCAA for anti-trust. OU or one of its paid players could claim that the NCAA is an organization which reduces competition for players by forcing amateurism on the players.

[jtstang]

1. Jerry Tarkanian wa not a member institution.

2. An antitrust violation is a different animal. A statute creates a civil remedy for persons aggreived by the violation. Surely you are not suggesting that imposition of the death penalty runs about of antitrust law? That is a world of difference from a suit complaining that the NCAA has enforced rules against you which you agreed to abide by in joining the NCAA. Come on, East, you're a lawyer, you know better than to play the antitrust violation card in this debate.

[ponyte]

Gotta agree with East on this one. The NCAA can't be trusted and is therefore an anti-trust organization.

[jtstang]

Gotta agree with East on this one. The NCAA can't be trusted and is therefore an anti-trust organization.

Now that was the funniest ting I've read here in a while.

[mrydel]

Everyone from Arkansas has to have a sense of humor.

[PK]

Everyone from Arkansas has to have a sense of humor.

Obviously its the only sense they have...if they had any other kind of sense they wouldn't even be there.

[George S. Patton]

1. Jerry Tarkanian wa not a member institution.

2. An antitrust violation is a different animal. A statute creates a civil remedy for persons aggreived by the violation. Surely you are not suggesting that imposition of the death penalty runs about of antitrust law? That is a world of difference from a suit complaining that the NCAA has enforced rules against you which you agreed to abide by in joining the NCAA. Come on, East, you're a lawyer, you know better than to play the antitrust violation card in this debate.

In regards to Tarkanian, I recognize what you are saying, but since you practice law, perhaps you could suggest a way of going after the NCAA?

I don't know. For example, I just wonder if OU wanted to sue the NCAA, would it be best for David Boren, Joe Castiglione and Bob Stoops to file suit against them as private citizens or would there be no merit to that idea?

Obviously, Tark found a way to set some sort of precendence.

Thanks

[jtstang]

Antitrust action worked for the TV deal, but I'm not an antitrust lawyer, so that's all I can say about that. I think our man Stallion has some experience in that area, but I doubt very seriously it would be applicable to combt rules enforcement.

[mrydel]

Everyone from Arkansas has to have a sense of humor.

Obviously its the only sense they have...if they had any other kind of sense they wouldn't even be there.

It is hard to get out of Arkansas. We had to get one guy elected President just to get rid of him. Luckily, his wife followed.