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Postby mrydel » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:36 am

Seems to me that todays most recent blog by our Associate AD for Compliance agrees with me that this call in show "recruiting" is a violation.
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Postby PK » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:05 am

So who is going to have the honor of turning them in to the NCAA?
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Postby mrydel » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:18 am

PK wrote:So who is going to have the honor of turning them in to the NCAA?


If I do it I will be end up dead in some kind of accidental hog stampede type of event.
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Postby PK » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:10 pm

mrydel wrote:...hog stampede type of event.
Is that the Arkansas equivalent of the running of the bulls?
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Postby jtstang » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:14 pm

Be careful, you guys are bordering on showing a sense of humor.
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Postby mrydel » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:32 pm

PK wrote:
mrydel wrote:...hog stampede type of event.
Is that the Arkansas equivalent of the running of the bulls?


Sure is. Several people get tusked every year but they keep coming back.
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Postby PK » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:38 pm

mrydel wrote:
PK wrote:
mrydel wrote:...hog stampede type of event.
Is that the Arkansas equivalent of the running of the bulls?


Sure is. Several people get tusked every year but they keep coming back.
In that case, go ahead and turn them in, but sign the letter using JT's name...living with a longhorn he probably knows how to avoid tusks and other sharp pointy objects.
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Postby jtstang » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:42 pm

I see you've already met my wife.
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Postby mrydel » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:49 pm

Actually it is like a hardball batter trying to hit against a good softball pitcher. Everything comes from a different angle. Being good at horn dodging does not assure one of success tusk dodging. Quite the opposite actually. With Jtstang's longhorn knowledge he is sure to be tusked should he be here to participate. It adds new meaning to "taking ones seat", at least from the hog's point of view.

Is this a slow day or what?
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Postby PK » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:54 pm

Hence the term CYA. :D
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Postby EastStang » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:09 pm

I vaguely remember that back in the days when we had a payroll to meet that some of the investors in SMU football were not alums, just fans. My guess is that you could perhaps cite lack of institutional control in that "boosters" of UA are contacting recruits on behalf of UA who are not representatives of the University. Good luck with that. Although I would love to see Frank Broyles choking on that one.
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Postby Stallion » Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:34 pm

ah "CYA". Reminds me of my favorite moment in Court where a Defendant was actually stupid enough to write CYA on incriminating evidence. We won.
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Postby PK » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:42 pm

:lol:
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Postby Stallion » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:31 pm

I saw the Blog about Recruiting Compliance-and as I mentioned the Radio announcers would have to be found to be a representative of the university. Here are the factors to consider:·

Participate in an organization promoting athletics at that institution (or had so in the past);
· Contribute (money, time, volunteer, etc) to the Athletics Department or any of its booster clubs;
· Assist or have been requested by athletics staff to help in the recruitment of a prospective student-athlete;
· Assist in providing benefits to an enrolled student-athlete at the school and/or their families or;
· Been involved in otherwise promoting the athletics program.


He lists the factors but fails to establish proof of the factors with any facts. Having a Radio Show in Arkansas reporting on Arkansas Football is NOT promoting Arkansas football-its simply the job of an Arkansas Sports Radio announcer. Note simply being an alumnus of the university would not under these factors make him a representative of the university-although contributing time, money or volunteering could. Is Dale Hanson supporting SMU Football because he (rarely) does stories about SMU Football. No. He is a reporter of facts. He could report a commitment of an SMU commit anytime he wanted to-if SMU ever recruits a player worthy of mention. The Fact that the DMN is a financial contributor to the SMU athletic department does not make all its employees representatives of the university. There would be exceptions like I mentioned. Dave South at A&M is actually employed by the university. Not discounting that an Arkansas Radio announcer could be a representative of the university but only that there are no facts that establish that these guys were. Based on the reported facts-there was no NCAA violation.
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Postby mrydel » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:43 pm

The radio station in question is the flagship station for the University of Arkansas athletics. Some of the guests who are doing the "recruiting" are publishers of a Arkansas recruiting magazine. Some of the guests that are doing the recruiting are former Arkansas players. I believe there are many tie ins to UA. These are not interivews and highlight discussions. These are conversations where the interviewer is degrading the other SEC teams or particular teams that the kid is scheduled to visit and then promoting the Uof A itself. This is not what you would call unbiased reporting. And they are not just reporting on the kids, they are calling them and "recruiting" them by doing the things I have mentioned. I have heard kids interviewed all of my long, long, long (did I mention long?) life and never heard anything of the sort that I hear with the conversations they have with these kids. Rumor out is that Tennesssee and Alabama and possibly others are already inquiring into this but I have no facts on that.
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