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Postby Mexmustang » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:34 pm

I have two problems. One is probably "generational". At one time going to a bowl meant something. Generally that you were in the top 20-25. There were 4 majors and 8-10 minors. Now days, going to a bowl, has very little meaning to me. Except for the top ten or so, the rest are not important and not worth watching. Almost 70 teams are now invited to a bowl, it really means that you had a winning season or broke even in a major conference.
The second, under this scenario, Bennett will not have had one single winning season. Not a single one! That performance do not deserve to be rewarded, on any terms.
Has some progress been made, perhaps, but quite frankly it isn't satisfactory. Watching the North Texas game was as poor a played game as I've ever seen for two college teams. High school games are better played. As far as TCU, they don't have a quarterback and playing SMU isn't much of a challenge. Do you think it compares to playing in Austin? They won despite their lack of emotion, and had their receivers held onto the ball, despite the poor passing, they would have beaten us badly on the scoreboard.
Bennett's comments about beating them statistically makes me laugh, if statistics counted, we would have also lost to North Texas.
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Postby expony18 » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:45 pm

Stallion wrote:Not really. He stays. I actually think 6-6 with this record is another step of improvement. Tougher schedule this year in several respects.
wow! we agree.... im to lazy too look up your old posts.. but i know a lot of people thought that this schedule was easier then last years... not the case. the year is tougher then last year. we go 6-6, go to a bowl, i dont think phil gets fired (and i hope not)
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Postby perunapower » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:49 pm

Mexmustang wrote:One more time, but not a single winning year!


If we get to a bowl game, that's irrelevant. I don't think SMU could handle the damage firing PB after getting to the first bowl game since 1984 would do to the athletic department's image.

I'm not saying we should be pleased with a 6-7 season, but that would stick the university between a rock and a hard place.
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Postby Mexmustang » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:59 pm

One more time...not a single winning season! I think the "boys" will understand that.
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Postby OR-See-Nee » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:10 pm

If we manage to go to a bowl this year, I predict the following:

1. Bennett receives tremendous national press accolades for rebuilding a program "the right way" (no major infractions, high graduation rates in difficult majors, etc.) and SMU is credited for giving PB time to rebuild the program.

2. PB leaves on his own after being recruited by higher-tier programs for either a HC job at a mid-major school or a coordinator position at a top 30 school (like ATM) OR

3. PB stays here and Orsini requires an infusion of new talented assistant coaches/coordinators.
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:13 pm

SMU Football Blog wrote:And MrMustang's comment that Bennett is going to quit win or lose is bubkis.
Instead of the word 'quit', let's say 'resign'. Now...wanna place a friendly wager on it?
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Postby OC Mustang » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:15 pm

OR-See-Nee wrote:If we manage to go to a bowl this year, I predict the following:

1. Bennett receives tremendous national press accolades for rebuilding a program "the right way" (no major infractions, high graduation rates in difficult majors, etc.) and SMU is credited for giving PB time to rebuild the program.

2. PB leaves on his own after being recruited by higher-tier programs for either a HC job at a mid-major school or a coordinator position at a top 30 school (like ATM) OR

3. PB stays here and Orsini requires an infusion of new talented assistant coaches/coordinators.



Guys, I take option D...any of the above. That means fun games with W's, and who knows after that. Either way, Patton had this right 2 weeks ago...we have a very interesting next 3 months.
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Postby SoCal_Pony » Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:56 pm

Stallion wrote:SMU Bataan Death March:

SMU could actually qualify for a bowl by beating one team in the Top 93 teams in the country according to Sagarin with 5 of those victories at home:

UCF 60
UTEP 94
Memphis 112
Tulane 142
North Texas 165
Rice 174

Go Conference USA West!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is why I was rooting for Arkansas State to win.

How can anyone think a team only beating the below teams is worthy of a Bowl Game...

Arkansas State 92
UTEP 94
Memphis 112
Tulane 142
North Texas 165
Rice 174

Improvement, I really don't see it and even if there was...not near enough for me.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:04 am

SoCal_Pony wrote:This is why I was rooting for Arkansas State to win.


Any SMU fan that roots for SMU to lose should be kicked in the Jimmy.
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Postby smu diamond m » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:31 am

SMU Football Blog wrote:
SoCal_Pony wrote:This is why I was rooting for Arkansas State to win.


Any SMU fan that roots for SMU to lose should be kicked in the Jimmy.

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Postby SoCal_Pony » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:25 pm

Blog,

SMU is unquestionably the worst college athletic program over the past 19 years. It is not even close…WE ARE AT THE ABSOLUTE BOTTOM and I am comparing us to over 150 schools.

PB has been HC for 6 of those 19 years. I want a change. Going 6-6 by defeating cupcakes is not my idea of improvement, but I realize it keeps PB his job. It is time for him to move on and the only way for that to happen is for SMU to lose a game such as Ark State…sorry, but that is the truth of the matter.

Look at Stallion’s comparison of our recent QB commitment to our peers. There will be the usual blather about the worthiness of Rivals, but once again, we are taking flyers in hopes turning around this program. It simply doesn’t work…our title as THE WORST COLLEGE ATHLETIC PROGRAM OVER THE PAST 19 YEARS proves that.

And about your ‘Jimmy’ comment…as an SMU fan, all of us have been getting those kicks far too much and for far too long.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:03 pm

And that is why Bennett shouldn't be here today. But he is.
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:36 pm

SMU Football Blog wrote:And that is why Bennett shouldn't be here today. But he is.
But he won't be for much longer. ;)
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