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Postby Treadway21 » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:03 pm

is out athleted a word?
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Postby Mexmustang » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:08 pm

Well, I remember seeing that UTEP didn't have a team this year, that they had a boatload of starters injured, that we should count this in the win column. Just what was Bennett's excuse for not tackeling? or getting fooled on the second half kickoff? or Price making adjustments that he admitted to after the game that he failed to recognize?
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Postby Stallion » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:18 pm

Bennett's not on the field. These guys are taught how to tackle. They just aren't very good.
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Postby Statler » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:42 pm

Stallion wrote:Bennett's not on the field. These guys are taught how to tackle. They just aren't very good.


Here we go. Stallion one note.
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Postby thefamousguy » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:51 pm

Stallion wrote:Really where exactly did he get outcoached except for the moronic penalty after the correctly called end of the first half. Boys SMU got out-athleted. The difference in the game was Sam and Thomas-who could not get into SMU because we don't get BCS transfers. bennett was dealt a shorter hand than Price and Price beat him WITH that extra long stick.


STALLION GET OVER THE SYSTEM EXCUSE! We did not get out athleted. Getting out Athleted is what happened in the 40 point loss to Tech. When you're up against superior athletes you don't put up the points we did today and barely lose in OT because of a collapse.

We got out coached. Price made the proper adjustments and we didn't counter. :evil:
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Postby Statler » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:57 pm

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Stallion wrote:Really where exactly did he get outcoached except for the moronic penalty after the correctly called end of the first half. Boys SMU got out-athleted. The difference in the game was Sam and Thomas-who could not get into SMU because we don't get BCS transfers. bennett was dealt a shorter hand than Price and Price beat him WITH that extra long stick.


STALLION GET OVER THE SYSTEM EXCUSE! We did not get out athleted. Getting out Athleted is what happened in the 40 point loss to Tech. When you're up against superior athletes you don't put up the points we did today and barely lose in OT because of a collapse.

We got out coached. Price made the proper adjustments and we didn't counter. :evil:


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Postby Hoop Fan » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:03 pm

agree that tackling technique is a silly copout. does anyone really believe these coaches can't teach tackling? Besides, even my 11 year knows how to tackle properly. Great technique. He just doesnt do it as well when he plays bigger, stronger 13 year olds thats all.
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Postby feelan » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:10 pm

no, coaches don't make tackles, but coaches put their players in position to make plays right? our playes never seem to be put in position to make plays. that is bad coaching.

Hoop Fan wrote:agree that tackling technique is a silly copout. does anyone really believe these coaches can't teach tackling? Besides, even my 11 year knows how to tackle properly. Great technique. He just doesnt do it as well when he plays bigger, stronger 13 year olds thats all.
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Postby mavsrage311 » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:29 am

feelan wrote:no, coaches don't make tackles, but coaches put their players in position to make plays right? our playes never seem to be put in position to make plays. that is bad coaching.

Hoop Fan wrote:agree that tackling technique is a silly copout. does anyone really believe these coaches can't teach tackling? Besides, even my 11 year knows how to tackle properly. Great technique. He just doesnt do it as well when he plays bigger, stronger 13 year olds thats all.


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Postby Stallion » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:37 am

I'm talking about 2 athletes in particular-both of which could not be admitted to SMU. Answer the question-Does UTEP win w/o Sam and Thomas. Yes or No. Don't talk about a bad call or the defense. Just simply does UTEP win w/o them. The answer is inescapable and everyone of you know it. Price used a more leniant admission policy to beat SMU. Advantage UTEP.
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Postby SMUtrojanFAN » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:42 am

Stallion wrote:I'm talking about 2 athletes in particular-both of which could not be admitted to SMU. Answer the question-Does UTEP win w/o Sam and Thomas. Yes or No. Don't talk about a bad call or the defense. Just simply does UTEP win w/o them. The answer is inescapable and everyone of you know it. Price used a more leniant admission policy to beat SMU. Advantage UTEP.

Homie, the point is, utep DOESN'T win, even WITH Sam and Thomas, IF the proper playcalling and adjustments had been made. Sam and Thomas were UTEP's whole team, but SMU lost because of SMU, not because of UTEP.
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Postby Pony Ride » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:01 am

SMUtrojanFAN wrote:
Stallion wrote:I'm talking about 2 athletes in particular-both of which could not be admitted to SMU. Answer the question-Does UTEP win w/o Sam and Thomas. Yes or No. Don't talk about a bad call or the defense. Just simply does UTEP win w/o them. The answer is inescapable and everyone of you know it. Price used a more leniant admission policy to beat SMU. Advantage UTEP.

Homie, the point is, utep DOESN'T win, even WITH Sam and Thomas, IF the proper playcalling and adjustments had been made. Sam and Thomas were UTEP's whole team, but SMU lost because of SMU, not because of UTEP.


What adjustements? I've never been a coach, so I'm not saying you are wrong. But instead of just saying that adjustments needed to be made, actually tell us what adjustments needed to be made.

To me, it seemed like we had less talent at the impact positions. So right now, I see what stallion is preaching.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:15 am

I'm not sure I would even go that far. What I'm saying is that 2 coaches at two different institutions were given different Models upon which to build their programs. Both ended up with some guys at QB and RB that should have led their teams to victory. But the difference between SMU and UTEP is that UTEP's QB and RB would not have been admitted to SMU. If the two schools are playing under the same Model SMU wins. Price used this advantage to beat SMU-an advantage that has zero to do with Coaching and 100% to do with the competitive Model under which they are hired to coach.
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Postby SMUtrojanFAN » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:29 am

You have not convinced me.

If Bennett knows he can't be competitive under the current "model", why has he stayed here so long? That's counterintuitive.

And if UTEP's athlete's are so much better, why did they have to come from behind 3 times and only win by 4 in OT?
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Postby Stallion » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:44 am

All coaches in all sports at SMU since the DP have known they have been given a short stick to compete with. There simply is no doubt about that.
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