Texas Lonhgorns Worst in Big 12 Football Graduation Rates!

[SoCal_Pony]

Would it be so bad to have a slightly lower graduation rate but get to go to a bowl game every year?

Slightly lower?....what rate is acceptable to you snob?

I'll start at 50%

[2112]

why does stallion race to defend the criminal longhorns? why does he have so much man love for the horn? bevo could possibly resemble some of those old hags he coaxes out of the saloon at 3:00am

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

Boston College is ranked 7th in the nation and had a 96% football player graduation rate.

Florida last year's national champion had an 80% football player graduation
rate almost double the graduation rate as those thugs in Austin!

There are plenty of lousy teams with [deleted] poor graduation rates,
thats really not the answer.

Unlike Stallion and those hoodlums in Austin I think SMU
can have a respectable graduation rate and be a competitive
football team. Others do both and so can we. We should
never stoop to the level of the criminals in Austin.

[jtstang]

Unlike Stallion and those hoodlums in Austin I think SMU can have a respectable graduate rate and be a competitive football team.

But we don't and we're all sick of it. Please tell us how.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

re: But we don't and we're all sick of it. Please tell us how.

jtstang are you willing to give orsini a chance?
copeland was basically on auto-pilot for years
the guy at the top was not passionate
and we saw the results
i think orsini is a very driven man
have you ever spoke with him?
this guy is different
he is not going to tolerate a pathetic result
yeah we have suffered for years
but Orsini hasn't
lets see what he comes up with post-bennett
i betcha you are going to be surprised

[jtstang]

I hope you're right but we sucked before Copeland too.

[LonghornFan68]

A lot of players return to finish their degree after they finish a stint in the NFL - something people around here wouldn't know much about.

*ducks*

[LonghornFan68]

Oh, and by the way, UT as a school has a graduation rate of about 53%. For some reason there is a culture of career students there. Many people go to school part time and work as well. For some of them it takes them twice as long as most to finish a degree. Are you going to denigrate those people too? The funny part about all of this that UT is STILL ranked above SMU both in athletics and in academics. So keep your graduation rate moral victory. I'll keep looking at my degree up on the wall from a top-10 architecture program while watching my ranked football continue to succeed.

I love you all.

[abezontar]

Oh, and by the way, UT as a school has a graduation rate of about 53%. For some reason there is a culture of career students there. Many people go to school part time and work as well. For some of them it takes them twice as long as most to finish a degree. Are you going to denigrate those people too? The funny part about all of this that UT is STILL ranked above SMU both in athletics and in academics. So keep your graduation rate moral victory. I'll keep looking at my degree up on the wall from a top-10 architecture program while watching my ranked football continue to succeed.

that is until you play K-State or OU

[LonghornFan68]

Oh, and by the way, UT as a school has a graduation rate of about 53%. For some reason there is a culture of career students there. Many people go to school part time and work as well. For some of them it takes them twice as long as most to finish a degree. Are you going to denigrate those people too? The funny part about all of this that UT is STILL ranked above SMU both in athletics and in academics. So keep your graduation rate moral victory. I'll keep looking at my degree up on the wall from a top-10 architecture program while watching my ranked football continue to succeed.

that is until you play K-State or OU

I'll give you one of those.

[SMU Football Blog]

The stated standard for admittance into SMU as an athlete is "probability that the prospective student will graduate." Presumably, that is the criteria for the University as a whole. The graduation rate for the univiserity as a whole is around 67%. The football and basketball teams significantly exceed that figure. Given the time commitment that NCAA athletics require, I see nothing wrong with a graduation that mirrors the undergraduate population as a whole. Further, I see nothing wrong with lowering academic standards to reflect that.

[bigdaddy08091]

OU, UT lag in graduate rates

Rival football programs rank among nation's lowest in latest figures

Thursday - October 4, 2007
By KATE HAIROPOULOS / The Dallas Morning News

Texas and Oklahoma rank poorly in graduating football players, according to figures released Wednesday by the NCAA.

The Longhorns' graduation success rate, which is calculated by the NCAA, was 42 percent. Oklahoma's was 44 percent.

The only Bowl Subdivision (Division I-A) football programs with lower rates than UT are Georgia (41), Arizona (41) and San Jose State (36). Michigan State was below Oklahoma with 43.

The numbers were based on incoming freshmen from 1997 to 2000 graduating within six years. This is the third year the NCAA has released its own data. UT's football program actually improved on a 40 percent rate in the figures released last year. Oklahoma was down from 52 percent.

The average graduation rate of Bowl Subdivision football players was 67 percent, up from 65 percent. Men's basketball was the lowest of all sports at 61 percent, but that's up 2 percentage points from last year.

"Overall, the trend data is up, and it's very heartening," NCAA president Myles Brand said.

"We've seen in the last two years some upward movement. What that's saying is that in the athletic culture, the idea of academic performance ... is taking hold."

Baylor (84%), Nebraska (83%), Texas Tech (79%), Kansas State (73%) and Colorado (68%) were the Big 12 football programs that rated higher than the average. SMU had a GSR of 84.

Texas ranked second-to-last in the Big 12 in men's basketball, with a GSR of 33. Iowa State had the lowest in the league at 17 percent.

The GSR is separate from the Academic Progress Rate, which measures eligibility and retention of athletes to assess penalties.

The graduation rate for Division I athletes was 77 percent, the same as last year. Brand reaffirmed his goal of increasing the figure to 80 percent.

The NCAA touted year-by-year data showing that the GSR rose from 67.6 percent for male athletes who began college in 1995 to 71.5 percent for those who started their studies in 2000.

BIG 12, AREA SCHOOLS

Graduation Success Rates, released Wednesday by the NCAA,
are based on incoming freshmen from 1997 to 2000. Figures for
Big 12 and area colleges in football and men's basketball:


BIG 12

School: Football -- Mens Basketball
Baylor 84% 58%
Colorado 68 55
Iowa State 55 17
Kansas 56 45
Kansas State 73 67
Missouri 60 50
Nebraska 83 47
Oklahoma 44 46
Oklahoma St 64 73
Texas 42% 33%
Texas A&M 62 40
Texas Tech 79 44


AREA SCHOOLS

School: Football -- Mens Basketball
N. Texas 58% 60%
SMU 84% 82%
TCU 69% 35%


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/colleges/topstories/stories/100407dnspogradrates.37747af.html

Now do a story on how many palyers from whatever schools are in the NFL. Who gives a [deleted] about graduation, you can do that when you are 50. Ask half of this board, which one they would choose?

[gostangs]

Top 10 architecture school? That means about as much as our graduation rate. Top ten school for a career path that you cant feed your family by particpating in......great.

[couch 'em]

Architects are glorified art students.

I'd like a 0% graduation rate - everyone leaves early for the NFL draft!

[LonghornFan68]

Architects are glorified art students

Right, and lawyers are glorified thieves. And electrical engineers are.. wait, who cares about electrical engineers?