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Postby MrMustang1965 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:53 pm

D1Football wrote:Pete Carroll
Bob Stoops
Nick Saban

No particular order. Any of them will work just fine for me.
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Postby Pony4Life » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:54 pm

George S. Patton wrote:Interesting but the sex-party scandal at Colorado and the female PK incident could levy him as damaged goods.
Um ... you think?
I'm willing to bet the folks who do athletic PR want no part of Gary Barnett on the Hilltop.

SMUstang wrote:Yeah, Craig James is one... But he's too good for SMU.
According to who (other than James himself)?

mrydel wrote:I would wager that if and when SMU can get back on track, get a bowl bid, and show some power in CUSA that Craig James will be shouting from the roof tops that HIS Ponies are back.
Of course he will. The day it was announced that we were moving from the WAC to Conference USA, he showed up at the press conference and acted like we had just leapfrogged over the SEC, the PAC-10 and the ACC, and he made it seem like he created C-USA himself and that he alone was responsible for the move. Put the Ponies back in a bowl and he'll sit up there telling everyone that he knew we'd do it all along.
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Postby D1Football » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:55 pm

Kidding aside, I am very intrigued by the Neuheisel prospect. I would welcome the exploration of him as a candidate.
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Postby EastStang » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:58 pm

Usually left a shambles at schools after he left. Good at riding the work of his predecessor to new heights and then messing up and leaving. One thing, you'd have a really exceptional organizer for the final four office pool at the Athletic Department.
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Postby Pony4Life » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:00 pm

EastStang wrote:Usually left a shambles at schools after he left. Good at riding the work of his predecessor to new heights and then messing up and leaving. One thing, you'd have a really exceptional organizer for the final four office pool at the Athletic Department.
Bingo.
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Postby mustang1108 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:06 pm

Neuhesel all he ever does is creates controversy no matter where he goes whether its over recruiting at colorado or the final four pool at washington
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:06 pm

Neuheisel had 2 head coaching jobs. He was at each 4 years.
Colorado: 10-2, 10-2, 5-6, 8-4, (Barnett went 7-5 the next year).
Washington: 7-5, 11-1, 8-4, 7-6 (next year went 6-6).
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Postby Stallion » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:04 pm

Instead of asking which Head Coaches YOU want, a better question is which Coaches would accept the job based upon the Model used by the school. Most of these big names simply will not accept the SMU job as it is presently presented. Each time SMU has been in competition with other schools for really quite impressive candidates-SMU was passed over. Sorry it wasn't the Money-it was the lack of Commitment to a strong Division 1A program. That is why we hired a bunch of third string head coaches-and yes Bennett was a third string head Coaching candidate turned down by every school-at least 5- he applied. As I said before and after he was hired, he should never have been chosen in the first place since he doesn't have the qualities one needs in the Job. The only guy who thinks Phil Bennett had a great reputation as a an ace recruiter in Texas-and often repeated statement-is Phil Bennett himself and those that puppet what he says. Phil Bennett made a reputation recruiting a ton of JUCOs and other marginal academic recruits who only K-State and the other big schools he coached at would take. If he had a reputation for recruiting it was for evaluation of otherwise overlooked recruits, but not for being an ace recruiter.
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Postby George S. Patton » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:42 pm

Stallion wrote:Instead of asking which Head Coaches YOU want, a better question is which Coaches would accept the job based upon the Model used by the school. Most of these big names simply will not accept the SMU job as it is presently presented. Each time SMU has been in competition with other schools for really quite impressive candidates-SMU was passed over. Sorry it wasn't the Money-it was the lack of Commitment to a strong Division 1A program. That is why we hired a bunch of third string head coaches-and yes Bennett was a third string head Coaching candidate turned down by every school-at least 5- he applied. As I said before and after he was hired, he should never have been chosen in the first place since he doesn't have the qualities one needs in the Job. The only guy who thinks Phil Bennett had a great reputation as a an ace recruiter in Texas-and often repeated statement-is Phil Bennett himself and those that puppet what he says. Phil Bennett made a reputation recruiting a ton of JUCOs and other marginal academic recruits who only K-State and the other big schools he coached at would take. If he had a reputation for recruiting it was for evaluation of otherwise overlooked recruits, but not for being an ace recruiter.


This looks like one big run-on sentence.

Ever heard of the idead of hitting the enter key on your keyboard to break up the paragraphs?
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Postby SMUstang » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:44 pm

mrydel wrote:
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smudad wrote:I might favor Davie just to get him off TV. Could we hire Brent Mussberger and [deleted] Vitale as well. I could name a few more if I thought about it.


Yeah, Craig James is one. I sure would like to get him off the air. But he's too good for SMU.


I would wager that if and when SMU can get back on track, get a bowl bid, and show some power in CUSA that Craig James will be shouting from the roof tops that HIS Ponies are back. I get the impression that he really wants to cheer and back the Mustangs but it must be tough in the circles in which he associates with his work. It is tough enough in Arkansas. We here are just lucky that what little success SMU has had in the past 20 years has primarily been against UA.


Craig James was talking about Kentucky and South Carolina as Tier 2 schools. If they are Tier 2, what Tier does that put us on? According to him you are no good unless you are on par with Texas and Oklahoma.
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Postby mrydel » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:41 pm

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smudad wrote:I might favor Davie just to get him off TV. Could we hire Brent Mussberger and [deleted] Vitale as well. I could name a few more if I thought about it.


Yeah, Craig James is one. I sure would like to get him off the air. But he's too good for SMU.


I would wager that if and when SMU can get back on track, get a bowl bid, and show some power in CUSA that Craig James will be shouting from the roof tops that HIS Ponies are back. I get the impression that he really wants to cheer and back the Mustangs but it must be tough in the circles in which he associates with his work. It is tough enough in Arkansas. We here are just lucky that what little success SMU has had in the past 20 years has primarily been against UA.


Craig James was talking about Kentucky and South Carolina as Tier 2 schools. If they are Tier 2, what Tier does that put us on? According to him you are no good unless you are on par with Texas and Oklahoma.


He was just speaking the lingo. There are things to get mad at people about but don't try to parse out everything. Kentucky has been a 2nd teir school for years. SMU was primarily a 2nd tier school in my days. We typically finished in the middle or lower half of the SWC. SMU is now a 2nd tier school in CUSA. It is merely a designation and was used appropriately. The "tiers" are levels within the conference.
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Postby EastStang » Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:48 am

As much as Stallion is the voice of doom, in this area, it is something that needs to be addressed. If we don't make the job attractive (like making it easier to recruit), the kind of coach that everyone wants, won't come here. And we'll get the Appalachian State coach, or the Notre Dame offensive coordinator, or some other good but bland coach. And five years from now, we'll still be wondering why we haven't been to a bowl unless one of those coaches is the next Paul Johnson.
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:44 pm

EastStang wrote:...And we'll get the Appalachian State coach...
Jerry Moore has already done his time on The Hilltop:

Prior to his arrival at ASU, Moore served as a head coach at North Texas (1979-80) and Texas Tech (1981-85). In 24 overall seasons as a head coach, Moore is 167-115-2. He also spent 15 successful seasons as a well-respected assistant coach under coaching legends Hayden Fry at SMU (1965-72), Tom Osborne at Nebraska (1973-78) and Ken Hatfield at Arkansas (1988).

Moore continued to add to his already impressive coaching resume in January 2006 when he served as an assistant coach at the annual Hula Bowl all-star game in Honolulu.

Before beginning his coaching career as an assistant at Corsicana H.S. in Corsicana, Texas from 1961-64, Moore enjoyed a prolific playing career. He finished among the nation’s top 10 in receptions as a wide receiver at Baylor from 1958-60. He was a team captain for the 11th-ranked Bears as a senior and graduated from Baylor with a degree in finance and economics in 1961.

A native of Bonham, Texas, Moore was an all-state performer on the gridiron and earned 14 varsity letters in four sports at Bonham H.S. He is a member of the Bonham Athletics Hall of Fame.
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Postby CalallenStang » Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:56 pm

JesuitPony wrote:No, no, no, no. Donnan was horrible with Georgia's talent. I can't imagine how bad he would be with SMU.


Um, UGA was postseason ranked in the top 25 four out of his five years there (the exception being his first year), and was 40-19 in his time there (a time that included national championships by DIVISION-mates Florida and Tennessee). UGA won all four bowl games under Donnan.

He was preceded at UGA by Ray Goff, who didn't exactly have a great record there either (46-34-1).

Donnan was fired by the UGA president over AD Vince Dooley's objections. Mark Richt came in directly after him and has been 65-18 since then.


I'm not saying Donnan is the best choice for our position...I'm just saying that if we have difficulty with bigger targets, Donnan should be considered as well[/b]
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:04 pm

D1Football wrote:Kidding aside, I am very intrigued by the Neuheisel prospect. I would welcome the exploration of him as a candidate.


Coaching in the NFL. Why take a cut in pay to coach at the college level, when you will ger an opportunity to be OC in the NFL in 3-5 years?
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