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Rallying Point:The Laura Bush School of EducationModerators: PonyPride, SmooPower
Not at SMU it isn't. Did you not understand the question? What undergraduate degrees are we supposed to be selling to recruits that are offered in this school?
True. At SMU it's like a PreMed or PreLaw "major". It's a curriculum that is designed to prepare students for grad school/exams. Getting a EDU major from TCU doesn't allow you to teach but it does the same thing that SMU is offering: a curriculum to prepare students for grad school/exams. But you're right, there is no BA in EDU at SMU however there is a PreEDU/grad program available to interested undergrads. They would still have to earn a major at SMU in order to graduate
Lets sell them on the most popular majors for student athletes! We have a great CCPA (communications) program, a good sociology program (where all SMU athletes currently are), a great business and econ school, and if you are interested in education, we have this great preparation plan/facilities for that.
Stallion, I gave in. I'll go ahead and spoon-feed you:
http://gofrogs.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl ... guide.html The majors are listed under the "personal" section describing each player in Section 3. PS I don't have the computer savvy to break into the TCU mainframe and reconstruct a phony adobe file, if that's your next suspicion
Are you feeble minded/can interpret writing? (I'm listing the popular majors for NCAA Football athletes and TCU) SMU has a CCPA major program, a Business major program, a Sociology major program, a PR/Advertising major program, a Biology major program, a History major program, great liberal arts major programs of all shapes and sizes, and offers PreMed, PreLaw and PreEd programs to boot. Lets see, I just listed 6 majors specifically here and you can refer to my "TCU majors" post for other programs that TCU athletes like and that we also have. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... jors_x.htm
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undergraduate......... degrees.......... does....... SMU's........... School...... of........... Education........... and.......... Human......... Development........ offer..........???????
Based on this thread, I hope to God they offer reading comprehension.
"It'd be nice to see Jesse Henderson break one here."
SMU offers a 21 hour classroom/9 hour field curriculum to prepare students for the TExES exams. The program does not confer a bachelors degree (a student will have to meet other graduation requirements) but it does allow a student to take courses in 5000-level educational courses. The SofEandHD offers graduate programs in various levels of education. See the website or speak to the Teach Education Advisors at Clements Hall (8-2346). Again, it's just like a PreLaw or PreMed degree. A BA in EDU by itself is the same as any other BA unless you take the TExES. SMU has a program to prepare a student for those exams.
Reading back over things I now realize that by "this school" you meant "the School of Education and Human Development" and not "SMU". Both could be inferred but I apologize for the misunderstanding. That's why I went down the Soc/Psych/CCPR list but I realize now that you weren't asking about SMU but rather about the SofEandHD. I'm sorry for questioning your reading ability. Still, (and I have stated many times) I've acknowledged that there is no undergrad degree offered through the SofEandHD but there is a cert. prep program and a good one at that, and that this is what really matters for someone who wants to get involved in teaching. We have a good educational program, why not sell it? Why didn't Bennett sell it?
If you believe what he said yesterday, and I do, it's apparently because the recruits who cared at all wanted to MAJOR in education, not just take a Kaplan certification prep course. Orsini seemed to agree that this is a problem, but one which has "been addressed" except for a "timeline", whatever that means.
"Damn. We have a School of Education but no gosh darn Education liberal arts BA. Oh well, guess we can't get any student athletes that are interested in education..." *Throws up arms in dispair* Seriously, that's the most pathetic attitude I've ever heard. SMU doesn't have a Law major...but it gets students who are interested in Law. SMU doesn't have a PreMedical major (or a medical grad school!)...but it gets lot sof students interested in Medicine. If students are interested in education, SMU has a PreEd program and a brand new graduate school. If your purpose was to point out that SMU doesn't have a EDU degree, then bravo, I've acknowledged that point a LONG time ago in this thread. It does however have a undergraduate EDU program and so if students want to take advantage of that/the facilities, that's what I would sell. But seriously, crying about not having a EDU major is like me crying because SMU doesn't have a Law, Politics and Society (LPS) major.
Both Bennett and Orsini lamented the lack of and education degree yesterday to the press and they'd know more than you and me both what recruits want.
SMU isn't on par with Kaplan with respect to educational cert...it's offering grad level courses and field work. I doubt very much recruits even know what type of exams they need to take when they say they are thinking about education. SMU program isn't a slam dunk, however, in that a student would have to complete another major if wanted to participate in that program. But there wouldn't be a difference in what that student would be exposed to, I'm sure that SMU would be on par or better. If they want it, they can get it here. But lets get real here, SMU isn't at the bottom of CUSA because we offer a PreEd instead of a BA Ed program. Education isn't even in the top major choice for TCU athletes, they rather be in communications, business or PR. Plus, it is a TOTAL COP OUT to say that not having a certain degree is the reason why you have one of the worst looking DB squat in the nation, why your line can't do anything creative, why your LB crew does unimaginative things like yell "all out" on blitzes (and not faking it), why our offense is completely readible and why nobody can tackle on the team. But boy, those EDU major I bet would sure help that, huh?
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