Advice to Orsini

[Nacho]

Form the committes, blue ribbon panels, search groups etc. Listen to every alum who whispers in your ear that this guy is the one.

Rank the candidates from 1 to 5. Get a consesus on the top guy. Make sure everyone is excited about him as the new savior of SMU football. Then select the # 2 guy on the list.

Here is what I think will also work. Do all the above Orsini but here is the best part for you. Go on vacation. Think about the choices. Hire whoever you want. Don't pay any attention to any of the above. They have never gotten anything right about SMU football. Hire your guy, after all it is you who will have to pay the price if he doesn't work out.

[bigdaddy08091]

Form the committes, blue ribbon panels, search groups etc. Listen to every alum who whispers in your ear that this guy is the one.

Rank the candidates from 1 to 5. Get a consesus on the top guy. Make sure everyone is excited about him as th new savior of SMU football. Then select the # 2 guy on the list.

Here is what I think will also work. Do all the above Orsini but here is the best part for you. Go on vacation. Think about the choices. Hire whoever you want. Don't pay any attention to any of the above. They have never gotten anything right about SMU football. Hire your guy, after all it is you who will have to pay the price if he doesn't work out.

No! It is the football team that will pay the price. Orsini will just hire someone else. C'mon Nacho Bell Grande! Get with the program. It is about the team, listen to the team!

[J.T.supporta]

Form the committes, blue ribbon panels, search groups etc. Listen to every alum who whispers in your ear that this guy is the one.

Rank the candidates from 1 to 5. Get a consesus on the top guy. Make sure everyone is excited about him as th new savior of SMU football. Then select the # 2 guy on the list.

Here is what I think will also work. Do all the above Orsini but here is the best part for you. Go on vacation. Think about the choices. Hire whoever you want. Don't pay any attention to any of the above. They have never gotten anything right about SMU football. Hire your guy, after all it is you who will have to pay the price if he doesn't work out.

No! It is the football team that will pay the price. Orsini will just hire someone else. C'mon Nacho Bell Grande! Get with the program. It is about the team, listen to the team!

we see what happens when orsini listens to the team...not sure how the exchange went but it sounded something like this.

JW: if pb leaves, i leave!...

lets all put full blame on JW for this 1-7 season...shows how much the players know about the right coach.

[bigdaddy08091]

Form the committes, blue ribbon panels, search groups etc. Listen to every alum who whispers in your ear that this guy is the one.

Rank the candidates from 1 to 5. Get a consesus on the top guy. Make sure everyone is excited about him as th new savior of SMU football. Then select the # 2 guy on the list.

Here is what I think will also work. Do all the above Orsini but here is the best part for you. Go on vacation. Think about the choices. Hire whoever you want. Don't pay any attention to any of the above. They have never gotten anything right about SMU football. Hire your guy, after all it is you who will have to pay the price if he doesn't work out.

No! It is the football team that will pay the price. Orsini will just hire someone else. C'mon Nacho Bell Grande! Get with the program. It is about the team, listen to the team!

we see what happens when orsini listens to the team...not sure how the exchange went but it sounded something like this.

JW: if pb leaves, i leave!...

lets all put full blame on JW for this 1-7 season...shows how much the players know about the right coach.

We have covered this one JT. JW was just angry, thank God he is staying and will stay, since he is the face of the program. And for your information, Orsini is in contact with JW after every game this year getting his pulse on the program. At least Orsini has some knowledge of how to rally his troops and fight.

[EastStang]

A blue ribbon panel hired Bennett, Cavan, and Rosseley. Nuff said.

[bigdaddy08091]

A blue ribbon panel hired Bennett, Cavan, and Rosseley. Nuff said.

Blue ribbon panel? We had a bunch of cooks hiring coaches?

[Billy Joe]

The blue ribbon panel did not create the model. The blue ribbon panel will only be able to select the best group of canidates depending how much coin SMU is willing to drop. Let me tell you this much, throw enough money in the pot and Bob Stoop and Mack Brown would take the next train out of their respective towns and head to Dallas. It is all about money.....nothing else.

[Nacho]

That is undoubtedly true but SMU is not going to lay down $4 million/yr like A&M is.

Was at the A&M game this weekend. Sat in the 3red deck. An eagle landed on my shoulder. Good times--for KU. Nicest people in the world down there. I may not be an Aggie but I do like them.

[Longtime]

If by "blue ribbon" panel you mean a search committee, you're extremely naive if you think a search committee actually does the hiring. Search committees usually just rubber-stamp the AD's selection.

I suppose maybe if the search committee raises serious issues about a candidate it could prevent someone from being hired. But search committees are a fake way of letting other people appear to be involved in the hiring process.

Here's how it's going to work: We're going to pay Eastman and Baudine a ton of money to come up with a list Orsini could have created on his own. Eastman and Baudine or some other intermediary, however, will contact candidates so that Orsini can honestly tell the media that he hasn't been in contact with anyone. And that way candidates can turn down the job without embarrassing SMU.

Once it's narrowed down to a couple of candidates, there may be some more indirect contact, but eventually Orsini will meet with them in person. Most likely at an out of town location, in an airport conference room, and begin the interview process. They won't bring a candidate to campus and parade him around unless they're pretty sure he's the guy.

That way any candidate isn't embarrased if someone else is picked. He can always say he pulled out of the negotiations. There's also the sensitive issue of coaches who are currently employed. They don't want to appear to have their eye on another job, even though all coaches do.

But once a candidate is on campus and speaks to the search committee, it's pretty much a done deal. This should be, and will be, Orsini's call all the way.

[Nacho]

So you are telling me that no one but Copeland was invloved in the hiring of other coaches, as you outlined above?

[SMUer]

I'm curious about this...how does E&B fill out their coaching list? Do they have a college football coach expert constantly evaluating and adding/dropping their favorites' names into a database, do they take into account SMU's particular needs (determined by them or Orsini?), or are they simply receiving and evaluating resumes as they receive them? Does anyone have experience with how these consulting firms work?

[Longtime]

Depends on what you mean by "involved." Sure, guys like Gerald Ford and President Turner have to sign off on the selection. If they don't like a candidate, he's eliminated.

But if you think a search committee that usually includes a student, a faculty member and a couple of ex-jocks actually picks the coach, you're kidding yourself.

The AD gets input, but it's his call. The search committee is merely a rubber stamp to make others feel like they had a say.

[smu diamond m]

I want to be on a search committee. Who do I contact?

[bigdaddy08091]

I want to be on a search committee. Who do I contact?

You are already there, just stop typing and start talking on the hilltop about how sick of this crap you are.

[EastStang]

I have to say that Ford and the late Lamar Hunt were not just stooges who were there to rubber stamp things. They've did get to their stations in life by rubber stamping things and did participate in the decision. If Bennett had come off in the interviews like an idiot, they would not have agreed to the hiring. Clearly, he was the best candidate 6 years ago willing to work at SMU, but the process of a hiring committee does not ensure a successful candidate. Hopefully we'll have better choices this timea around.