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Postby expony18 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:57 am

of ESPN.com....

REPORT: Barnett puts out feelers on Mustangs job

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3094247
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Postby LonghornFan68 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:16 pm

ugh, I don't like that choice at all.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:29 pm

why? are you afraid of winning? I think Barnett would be an incredible hire. Then we'd have twin National Coaches of the Year. That's a statement. If we are judging by best Football Coaches he gets the nod-pretty easily. I'm just worried he's using us to get his name out. If he wants to job it would not take me long to end the search. My biggest concern would be age but O'Leary and Price have got to be older. He needs to get a young agressive Coaching staff but Barnett knows how to get things done.
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Postby mrydel » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:40 pm

Those that keep saying our school is "too classy" to hire a person of Barnett's background need to remember our school is the most penalized school, for cheating, in the history of the NCAA. I am not proud of this but in case you have forgotten, we had our program shut down for cheating. And the reason it was shut down for cheating had a lot to do with the fact that we had been caught cheating so many times in the past. Again, we are the most penalized school in history. Now explain to me why we think we should not give a coach that had some rough times a 2nd chance to do a job that he wishes to do.

Do you think that the NCAA is going to come in and put us on the death penalty again because we hire Gary Barnett? If he is the best for the job, hire him. If not, hire the person who is, but hire the best person for the job. It seems most would favor hiring O'Leary or Price if we could, why not complain about their baggage. Or are they ok because someone gave them a second chance? Let Orsini do his job. I imagine he will get the best there is available and his concern will be wins, not what people think.
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Postby ThadFilms » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:41 pm

Stallion wrote:why? are you afraid of winning? I think Barnett would be an incredible hire. Then we'd have twin National Coaches of the Year. If we are judging by best Football Coaches he gets the nod-pretty easily. I'm just worried he's using us to get his name out. If he wants to job it would not take me long to end the search.



He's probably the best option mentioned so far. Sure he may not have survived the storm, but how do you weather storm and still win your division, pretty incredible.

His comments on Kate Hnida were more than regrettable. His piss-poor not-really-an-apology apology, perhaps more so. However if it weren't for that, we wouldn't be in this position.

I have my misgivings... but.... again, he wouldn't be available without my misgivings. I have no truly negative misgivings about Bowden, but I just don't know enough about him as a coach. Same with Applewhite, no idea about him as an HC. Barnett you know what you are getting, a guy who could make Northwestern (Northwestern!!!) into back to back Big 11 Ten championships! (Northwestern!!)
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Postby mustangxc » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:47 pm

Plus, the issue he had with the female kicker should never become an issue at SMU or anywhere else. There is no place for a girl on a guys football team!
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Postby Stallion » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:47 pm

Just once before you die wouldn't you like to have a Coach mentioned among the following names-pretty impressive list huh?


Bryant Award Winners by Year Year Winner School
1957 Woody Hayes Ohio State
1958 Paul Dietzel LSU
1959 Ben Schwartzwalder Syracuse
1960 Murray Warmath Minnesota
1961 Darrell Royal Texas
1962 John McKay USC
1963 Darrell Royal Texas
1964 Ara Parseghian Notre Dame
1965 Duffy Daugherty Michigan State
1966 Tom Cahill Army
1967 John Pont Indiana
1968 Woody Hayes Ohio State
1969 Bo Schembechler Michigan
1970 Alex Agase Northwestern
1971 Bob Devaney Nebraska
1972 John McKay USC
1973 Johnny Majors Pittsburgh
1974 Grant Teaff Baylor
1975 Woody Hayes Ohio State
1976 Johnny Majors Pittsburgh
1977 Lou Holtz Arkansas
1978 Joe Paterno Penn State
1979 Earle Bruce Ohio State
1980 Vince Dooley Georgia
1981 Danny Ford Clemson
1982 Joe Paterno Penn State
1983 Howard Schnellenberger Miami
1984 LaVell Edwards BYU
1985 Fisher DeBerry Air Force
1986 Joe Paterno Penn State
1987 [deleted] MacPherson Syracuse
1988 Lou Holtz Notre Dame
1989 Bill McCartney Colorado
1990 Bobby Ross Georgia Tech
1991 Don James Washington
1992 Gene Stallings Alabama
1993 Terry Bowden Auburn
1994 Rich Brooks Oregon
1995 Gary Barnett Northwestern
1996 Bruce Snyder Arizona State
1997 Lloyd Carr Michigan
1998 Bill Snyder Kansas State
1999 Frank Beamer Virginia Tech
2000 Bob Stoops Oklahoma
2001 Larry Coker Miami
2002 Jim Tressel Ohio State
2003 Nick Saban LSU
2004 Tommy Tuberville Auburn
2005 Mack Brown Texas
2006 Chris Petersen Boise
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Postby ThadFilms » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:54 pm

Bryant Award Winners by Year Year Winner School
1957 Woody Hayes Ohio State
1958 Paul Dietzel LSU
1959 Ben Schwartzwalder Syracuse
1960 Murray Warmath Minnesota
1961 Darrell Royal Texas
1962 John McKay USC
1963 Darrell Royal Texas
1964 Ara Parseghian Notre Dame
1965 Duffy Daugherty Michigan State
1966 Tom Cahill Army
1967 John Pont Indiana
1968 Woody Hayes Ohio State
1969 Bo Schembechler Michigan
1970 Alex Agase Northwestern
1971 Bob Devaney Nebraska
1972 John McKay USC
1973 Johnny Majors Pittsburgh
1974 Grant Teaff Baylor
1975 Woody Hayes Ohio State
1976 Johnny Majors Pittsburgh
1977 Lou Holtz Arkansas
1978 Joe Paterno Penn State
1979 Earle Bruce Ohio State
1980 Vince Dooley Georgia
1981 Danny Ford Clemson
1982 Joe Paterno Penn State
1983 Howard Schnellenberger Miami
1984 LaVell Edwards BYU
1985 Fisher DeBerry Air Force
1986 Joe Paterno Penn State
1987 [deleted] MacPherson Syracuse
1988 Lou Holtz Notre Dame
1989 Bill McCartney Colorado
1990 Bobby Ross Georgia Tech
1991 Don James Washington
1992 Gene Stallings Alabama
1993 Terry Bowden Auburn
1994 Rich Brooks Oregon
1995 Gary Barnett Northwestern
1996 Bruce Snyder Arizona State
1997 Lloyd Carr Michigan
1998 Bill Snyder Kansas State
1999 Frank Beamer Virginia Tech
2000 Bob Stoops Oklahoma
2001 Larry Coker Miami
2002 Jim Tressel Ohio State
2003 Nick Saban LSU
2004 Tommy Tuberville Auburn
2005 Mack Brown Texas
2006 Chris Petersen Boise
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Postby giacfsp » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:56 pm

mustangxc wrote:Plus, the issue he had with the female kicker should never become an issue at SMU or anywhere else. There is no place for a girl on a guys football team!
I saw Mia Hamm hit a 50-plus FG. If someone has her leg strength and wants to kick, there's no reason she shouldn't. Barnett's comments about Hnida were a lot worse than "regrettable."
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Postby Phxfan » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:58 pm

mrydel wrote:Those that keep saying our school is "too classy" to hire a person of Barnett's background need to remember our school is the most penalized school, for cheating, in the history of the NCAA. I am not proud of this but in case you have forgotten, we had our program shut down for cheating. And the reason it was shut down for cheating had a lot to do with the fact that we had been caught cheating so many times in the past. Again, we are the most penalized school in history. Now explain to me why we think we should not give a coach that had some rough times a 2nd chance to do a job that he wishes to do.

Do you think that the NCAA is going to come in and put us on the death penalty again because we hire Gary Barnett? If he is the best for the job, hire him. If not, hire the person who is, but hire the best person for the job. It seems most would favor hiring O'Leary or Price if we could, why not complain about their baggage. Or are they ok because someone gave them a second chance? Let Orsini do his job. I imagine he will get the best there is available and his concern will be wins, not what people think.


I agree with you. I'm just trying to look through the schools eye. For the very reasons you mentioned they may hedge on this. I don't think they should on Barnett. If he can run a clean or reasonably clean program, then go for it. From SMU's point of view, will they say, lets not get in another mess. I think another mess may end the program for good. I'm sure that if he is the hire the school will keep him on a very short leash, at least for a while.
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Postby jtstang » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:00 pm

giacfsp wrote:
mustangxc wrote:Plus, the issue he had with the female kicker should never become an issue at SMU or anywhere else. There is no place for a girl on a guys football team!
I saw Mia Hamm hit a 50-plus FG. If someone has her leg strength and wants to kick, there's no reason she shouldn't. Barnett's comments about Hnida were a lot worse than "regrettable."

As if, what happens when she has her period right before your bowl game?
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Postby jtstang » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:01 pm

Phxfan wrote:I'm just trying to look through the schools eye. For the very reasons you mentioned they may hedge on this.

I think you are still hung up on the Methodist Church's role in selecting the coach. Let me clarify, it doesn't have one.
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Postby mustangxc » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:03 pm

giacfsp wrote:
mustangxc wrote:Plus, the issue he had with the female kicker should never become an issue at SMU or anywhere else. There is no place for a girl on a guys football team!
I saw Mia Hamm hit a 50-plus FG. If someone has her leg strength and wants to kick, there's no reason she shouldn't. Barnett's comments about Hnida were a lot worse than "regrettable."


I'm not questioning a woman's ability to kick, but it is a men's team. I don't think it is appropriate, that's all.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:05 pm

Professional Highlights

Coach Barnett is known as a teacher, mentor and counselor. He has always produced winning programs while preparing his players for success on and off the field.

14 years as a Division I head coach

4 time Coach of the Year (twice in the Big 10 and twice in the Big XII) including a record of 17 Coach of the Year awards in 1995

3 conference championships (1995, 1996 Big 10 Championships, 2001 Big 12 Championship)

4 Big 12 North Division championships

16th ranked (SuperPrep) recruiting class of 2000

11th ranked (SuperPrep) and 14th ranked (CNN/SI) recruiting class of 2002

18th ranked (PrepStar) and 19th ranked (Scout) recruiting class of 2003

Marinus Smith Award 2005 – presented by the CU Parents Association to teachers, advisors and staff who have made a significant impact on the lives of undergraduate students

One of four finalists for the 2003 State Farm Eddie Robinson Coach of Distinction Award, presented to a coach for his football success, serving as a role model to his players and for service to his community

79% graduation rate on average (one class was 100%)

ESPY Award

Coached Most Improved Teams (three times)

Coached two turnaround teams in 1995 and 2001 (as recognized by the NCAA)

On the coaching staff for the 2004 Hula Bowl in Maui

Coached the East-West Shrine Game

Offensive Coordinator of the 1991 national championship team

Personal Background

Married to Mary for 39 years with whom he has raised two successful, accomplished children (Courtney, Northwestern 1997, and Clayton, Georgetown 1999, Denver Law 2003). Courtney works for World Relief and has spent her career working for non-profit organizations. She and J.J. are currently expecting the Barnett’s first grandchild. Clayton is practicing law in Denver and is engaged to be married this summer.

Chicago Father of the Year in 1995 and Chicagoan of the Year in 1996

Mentored students from ages 15-23 for more than 30 years

Founded an organization to support educational programs for economically disadvantaged and at-risk youth (www.GaryBarnettFoundation.org). The Barnetts started the foundation after the passing of one of their players and to further their interest in helping young people succeed in life. Orange Bowl MVP Charles Johnson, Boulder physician Dr. John Meyer and Boston TV anchor Paul Burton are all involved in the organization.

Received a Master’s in Education and played WR at University of Missouri

Physically active as a golfer and runner

Coaching Experience

University of Colorado

After his turning around the fortunes in Evanston and leading Northwestern to the Citrus Bowl and the Rose Bowl, Coach Barnett was named head coach at CU on January 20, 1999. He had previously coached as an assistant under Bill McCartney from 1984 to 1991. After assuming the head coaching position, in seven seasons he led the Buffaloes to a 42-33 record. He coached four division championship teams and one conference championship team. Two of his teams finished ranked in the nation’s Top 10 and the Top 15.

At Colorado, he won the Big 12 Conference title (2001) and four Big 12 North Division crowns (2001, 2002, 2004, 2005). The Buffs were 29-19 in conference games under Coach Barnett, including a 14-2 mark over the 2001 and 2002 campaigns, the fourth best two-year record in conference history. His last four teams were 17-3 against Big 12 North counterparts, best in the conference.

Coach Barnett was twice honored as the Big 12 Coach of the Year by the Associated Press (2001, 2004). He was twice honored as Big 10 Coach of the Year by the Associated Press (1995, 1996). On average, teams coached by Gary Barnett have won division or conference every 3.5 years.

In 2004, the conferences’ media recognized him as their Coach of the Year after his team went to a Bowl for the fourth time in six years under his tutelage. The Buffs finished their season with a 33-28 win over UTEP in the Houston Bowl, concluding an 8-5 season.

Coach Barnett is a member of a very select group of head coaches who have twice coached the NCAA Most Improved Team. Several years after arriving at Colorado, in 2001, he tied for the top spot (also a plus-6), joining him with three coaching legends who have also accomplished the feat on two occasions (Paul “Bearâ€
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Postby mustangxc » Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:05 pm

Stallion, I like your list. Would you be happy with Larry Coker given that he is on your list?
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