Feel the Hatred Grow

1985coog · Post by **1985coog** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:04 pm

With everything happening between these two teams I really think that this has the potential to turn into a truly bad blood rivalry. Just like the old SWC days where there was none of this "mutual respect" crap flying around just true hatred all around.

Logo stomping, taunting (from both sides and plenty of it), late hitting (and lots from everyone), fans who hate each other, et al. This is good stuff and the drama angles in general right themselves.
SMU- rich, affluent, blue blooded

UH- hard-working, blue-collar, tough, not-so-rich.

Things like this are good for both fo our schools especially if SMU can bring itself back to respectability.

NTXCoog · Post by **NTXCoog** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:10 pm

And despite all of that, Coach Briles has his team take a knee deep in SMU territory at the end of the game. The extra points on the scoreboard might have helped in the minds of voters who didn't watch the game, but CAB just cared about the win. So unlike that coach in west texas.

ponyinNC · Post by **ponyinNC** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:12 pm

1985coog wrote:With everything happening between these two teams I really think that this has the potential to turn into a truly bad blood rivalry. Just like the old SWC days where there was none of this "mutual respect" crap flying around just true hatred all around.

Logo stomping, taunting (from both sides and plenty of it), late hitting (and lots from everyone), fans who hate each other, et al. This is good stuff and the drama angles in general right themselves.
SMU- rich, affluent, blue blooded

UH- hard-working, blue-collar, tough, not-so-rich.

Things like this are good for both fo our schools especially if SMU can bring itself back to respectability.

I could not agree more. SMU has been looking for a true "rivalry" w/in C-USA that hasn't been there in a while. Our true rival (TCU) has really leapfrogged us in terms of talent and wins and I don't really see that as a rivalry anymore. It seems more like a "forced" game now every year.

If we can start with a good coach and build up to competing for conference titles w/ UH, I think this would be the game of the year in C-USA West every year.

George S. Patton · Post by **George S. Patton** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:14 pm

NTXCoog wrote:And despite all of that, Coach Briles has his team take a knee deep in SMU territory at the end of the game. The extra points on the scoreboard might have helped in the minds of voters who didn't watch the game, but CAB just cared about the win. So unlike that coach in west texas.

Minds of voters? No CUSA team should even be on voter's radar. This conference is a joke. The ultimate in have nots in football.

NTXCoog · Post by **NTXCoog** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:20 pm

You might not have noticed, but UH does have 4 votes in the USA Today poll.

I can't tell you if this UH team is good or not. We've lost all of our games to teams with winning records including at #3 Oregon, at #21 Alabama, and against CUSA East leading East Carolina (if we hadn't missed those 2 field goals. :roll:

). We haven't beaten a team with a winning record, but we haven't lost to a team with a losing record.

Our last chance to beat a team with a winning record in the regular season comes this week against Tulsa. If we win, it will show we're a better team than many think. If we lose, we'll be a team that can win against losing teams, but not good teams.

And yes, it is sad that we play 8 teams with losing records this year. Unfortunately most of them are conference games.

PK · Post by PK » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:35 pm

ponyinNC wrote:I could not agree more. SMU has been looking for a true "rivalry" w/in C-USA that hasn't been there in a while. Our true rival (TCU) has really leapfrogged us in terms of talent and wins and I don't really see that as a rivalry anymore. It seems more like a "forced" game now every year.

TCU will feel like a true rival again when we start beating their rosy cheeks on a regular basis...and we will.

QuikSStang · Post by **QuikSStang** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:40 pm

i think part of the reason we havent been able to develop any rivalries in conference is the fact that the teams are so spread out geographically. Conference USA is way too spread out. the teams stretch from far west Texas to East Carolina. its tough when we have to travel all over the country to play games and stir up rivalries, especially when we dont travel well period.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:42 pm

I'm sure UH has 4 votes-all from Conference USA Coaches. UH is not a Top 50 Team

Billy Joe · Post by **Billy Joe** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:46 pm

I really do not believe SMU has a true rival except for TCU. Houston is just another team on the schedule. SMU's biggest rival is its own administration not the opposing teams.

SMUtrojanFAN · Post by **SMUtrojanFAN** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:49 pm

QuikSStang wrote:i think part of the reason we havent been able to develop any rivalries in conference is the fact that the teams are so spread out geographically. Conference USA is way too spread out. the teams stretch from far west Texas to East Carolina. its tough when we have to travel all over the country to play games and stir up rivalries, especially when we dont travel well period.

That's what everyone said about the WAC.

Realistically, no conference can have everyone within a 4 hour drive. Affiliates are going to be spread out across states. I realize North Carolina is far, but in my mind a road game at ECU isn't any worse than a road game at UAB.

DiamondM75 · Post by **DiamondM75** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:55 pm

QuikSStang wrote:i think part of the reason we havent been able to develop any rivalries in conference is the fact that the teams are so spread out geographically. Conference USA is way too spread out. the teams stretch from far west Texas to East Carolina. its tough when we have to travel all over the country to play games and stir up rivalries, especially when we dont travel well period.

You have to look at the conference divisions, not the entire conference. The west is from Houston (4 hours) to Tulsa (4 hours) to Tulane (8 hours, 1.25 via Southwest) to UTEP (13 hours, 1.5 via Southwest) so except for Tulane and UTEP you can travel to all division games by automobile. And since we play UTEP and TULANE on the road on alternating years, you have to fly to only one game per year.

This will help build rivalries in the future, it just takes a few years of getting beat or beating up to develop. We are starting to develop a rivalry with Houston and I can forsee a rivalry with Tulsa. We just have to get a little better so the games start meaning something.

My vision for CUSA west will be SMU, Tulsa and Houston battling for the division title every year. And therefore, creating ongoing rivalries with these schools, just like Texas, Texas A&M and OU in the Big XII south.

QuikSStang · Post by **QuikSStang** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:05 pm

another thing i forgot to mention-

tradition. conference usa has been changing their makeup over the years and teams havent been part of the conference long enough to develop any seriosu rivalries. when louisville, usf, and cincinatti jumped ship to the big east, tcu left, leaving us with an almost completely new conference

EastStang · Post by **EastStang** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:27 pm

I think CUSA is a going to be good for us in the long run. The west division gives us four games that are within easy Dallas travelling distance. Heck even USM and Memphis aren't that far away. For those of us forloned Mustang fans on the east coast, we get to see games with Marshall and ECU and can fly easily to Orlando. This is the only year where I will not get to see a Mustang away game that easy to get to. Next year UCF. The following year Marshall and the year after that at ECU.

SMUer · Post by **SMUer** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:27 pm

Mmmmmm. The hate....mmmmmm...it tastes so good...

What should our trophy be called?

SMUer · Post by **SMUer** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:28 pm

The Marxist Trophy? (Aristocracy vs Working Class)

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