Recruiting Idea

[The XtC]

That's correct, there are limitations on the coaching staffs and who can recruit off campus. I didnt want to get too specific because the original poster didnt seem to be grasping the basic concept of limitations.

Here is the rule, applicable to all sports:

11.5 Certification to recruit Off Campus
11.5.1 annual Certification requirement. Only those coaches who have been certified may contact or evaluate any prospective student-athletes off campus. Certification must occur on an annual basis. (Adopted:
1/10/91 effective 8/1/92)

11.5.1.1 Certification Administration. Such certification procedures shall be established administered for
its member institutions by the member conferences of the Association or, in the case of an independent institution,
by the NCAA national office or the conference office that administers the National Letter of Intent for that
institution. Such certification procedures shall include a requirement that the coaches shall have passed a standardized
national test developed by the NCAA national office covering NCAA recruiting legislation, including
Bylaw 13 and other bylaws [e.g., Bylaws 15.3 (institutional financial aid award) and 14.3 (freshman academic
requirements)] that relate to the recruitment of prospective student-athletes as a condition for being permitted
to engage in off-campus recruiting. Member conferences shall establish the procedures for administering and
correcting the test within each conference. (Adopted: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/92; Revised: 1/16/93, 4/24/03)

Etc.

[bigdaddy08091]

Why not spend a little of the budget designated for the next coach on hiring several guys whose entire job is to recruit and find those diamonds in the rough. Big programs have that and if we are willing to drop a mil on a coach, why not spend a little on a recruiting operation. Because, Then you have a situation where the coach flies to the recruits home and seals the deal only. Otherwise, you have a situation where the head coach and assitants are spending tons of time trying to coach, hunt for the players, and then recruit them. Therefore, I feel even if we get a big name coach, that doesn't neccesarily mean he will find the players. We have to find them.

The NCAA has regulations, please find them and update yourself on the rules and regulations of recruiting. Plus, it would not make a difference if we hired the 43rd army platoon to recruit. We will continue to get the type of players we have now. My question to you is, what came first the chicken or the egg. Do we have to win first to be able to recruit or can we recruit to win. If you was a good HS football player, would you come here?

[expony18]

Why not spend a little of the budget designated for the next coach on hiring several guys whose entire job is to recruit and find those diamonds in the rough. Big programs have that and if we are willing to drop a mil on a coach, why not spend a little on a recruiting operation. Because, Then you have a situation where the coach flies to the recruits home and seals the deal only. Otherwise, you have a situation where the head coach and assitants are spending tons of time trying to coach, hunt for the players, and then recruit them. Therefore, I feel even if we get a big name coach, that doesn't neccesarily mean he will find the players. We have to find them.

The NCAA has regulations, please find them and update yourself on the rules and regulations of recruiting. Plus, it would not make a difference if we hired the 43rd army platoon to recruit. We will continue to get the type of players we have now. My question to you is, what came first the chicken or the egg. Do we have to win first to be able to recruit or can we recruit to win. If you was a good HS football player, would you come here?

bigdaddy is an idiot

[bigdaddy08091]

By the way though, when is USC going to be counseled for Reggie Bush's family allegedly getting $600 K in benefits?

Never, like OU never was counseled!

[Stallion]

We're getting ready to hire our 9th Miracle worker since the DP -so we got that going for us. Diggin' our way out of this mess is going to take some time. Big rebuilding project especially on defense where we are two small, too slow, not athletic or agile. I think we've got 3-4 players on defense who could be part of the solution-haven't seen the redshirts yet so hopefully there are more. That is if we are talking about Championships and that is my standard.

[bigdaddy08091]

Why not spend a little of the budget designated for the next coach on hiring several guys whose entire job is to recruit and find those diamonds in the rough. Big programs have that and if we are willing to drop a mil on a coach, why not spend a little on a recruiting operation. Because, Then you have a situation where the coach flies to the recruits home and seals the deal only. Otherwise, you have a situation where the head coach and assitants are spending tons of time trying to coach, hunt for the players, and then recruit them. Therefore, I feel even if we get a big name coach, that doesn't neccesarily mean he will find the players. We have to find them.

The NCAA has regulations, please find them and update yourself on the rules and regulations of recruiting. Plus, it would not make a difference if we hired the 43rd army platoon to recruit. We will continue to get the type of players we have now. My question to you is, what came first the chicken or the egg. Do we have to win first to be able to recruit or can we recruit to win. If you was a good HS football player, would you come here?

bigdaddy is an idiot

I may be, but stop posting like we are on the same playing field as everybody else. Are you [deleted]. We have the type of players we have had for the last 20 years for a reason, we suck in athletics. And all you Doh fans can kiss my [deleted], he sucks and the team sucks because no athlete wants to play here. I seen Doh watch a man die on the soccer field track and never lift a finger! He sucks.

[Pony81]

Diamonds in the rough are extremely rare in the Internet age. Any joe can post video of his favorite player, all major D1 schools run camps that are well reported on, coaches send tape, family send tape.

Believe me, our inability to recruit has nothing to do with a lack of information.

It has everything to do with an inability to select the right 2-3 star player. A player who can develop better than our competitors 2-3 star player. A player we can keep in school, a player that works hard, a player that wants to win.

Given our abysmal lack of Sr. and Jr. talent, it seems we are selecting players who wash out or don't want to play.

We are getting drilled by schools that - on paper - shouldn't hold a candle to SMU. How is that we are our recruited by Tulsa et al? Because they are better talent evaluators, better coaches to develop the talent.

[expony18]

Why not spend a little of the budget designated for the next coach on hiring several guys whose entire job is to recruit and find those diamonds in the rough. Big programs have that and if we are willing to drop a mil on a coach, why not spend a little on a recruiting operation. Because, Then you have a situation where the coach flies to the recruits home and seals the deal only. Otherwise, you have a situation where the head coach and assitants are spending tons of time trying to coach, hunt for the players, and then recruit them. Therefore, I feel even if we get a big name coach, that doesn't neccesarily mean he will find the players. We have to find them.

The NCAA has regulations, please find them and update yourself on the rules and regulations of recruiting. Plus, it would not make a difference if we hired the 43rd army platoon to recruit. We will continue to get the type of players we have now. My question to you is, what came first the chicken or the egg. Do we have to win first to be able to recruit or can we recruit to win. If you was a good HS football player, would you come here?

bigdaddy is an idiot

I may be, but stop posting like we are on the same playing field as everybody else. Are you [deleted]. We have the type of players we have had for the last 20 years for a reason, we suck in athletics. And all you Doh fans can kiss my [deleted], he sucks and the team sucks because no athlete wants to play here. I seen Doh watch a man die on the soccer field track and never lift a finger! He sucks.

i didnt read your previous post or any of this thread, or even your reply... i just like getting you all riled up

[expony18]

Why not spend a little of the budget designated for the next coach on hiring several guys whose entire job is to recruit and find those diamonds in the rough. Big programs have that and if we are willing to drop a mil on a coach, why not spend a little on a recruiting operation. Because, Then you have a situation where the coach flies to the recruits home and seals the deal only. Otherwise, you have a situation where the head coach and assitants are spending tons of time trying to coach, hunt for the players, and then recruit them. Therefore, I feel even if we get a big name coach, that doesn't neccesarily mean he will find the players. We have to find them.

The NCAA has regulations, please find them and update yourself on the rules and regulations of recruiting. Plus, it would not make a difference if we hired the 43rd army platoon to recruit. We will continue to get the type of players we have now. My question to you is, what came first the chicken or the egg. Do we have to win first to be able to recruit or can we recruit to win. If you was a good HS football player, would you come here?

bigdaddy is an idiot

I may be, but stop posting like we are on the same playing field as everybody else. Are you [deleted]. We have the type of players we have had for the last 20 years for a reason, we suck in athletics. And all you Doh fans can kiss my [deleted], he sucks and the team sucks because no athlete wants to play here. I seen Doh watch a man die on the soccer field track and never lift a finger! He sucks.

i didnt read your previous post or any of this thread, or even your reply... i just like getting you all riled up

i read your last reply for fun... you seen Doh? hahaha

[perunapower]

I seen Doh watch a man die on the soccer field track and never lift a finger! He sucks.

What in the heck are you babbling on about? You need to get some sleep, put down the bottle of Jim Beam, and put out that blunt. Coach Doh watched a man die just for the fun of it? Also, if you watched Coach Doh watch someone die, why didn't you help that guy instead of second-hand watching?

[bigdaddy08091]

Why not spend a little of the budget designated for the next coach on hiring several guys whose entire job is to recruit and find those diamonds in the rough. Big programs have that and if we are willing to drop a mil on a coach, why not spend a little on a recruiting operation. Because, Then you have a situation where the coach flies to the recruits home and seals the deal only. Otherwise, you have a situation where the head coach and assitants are spending tons of time trying to coach, hunt for the players, and then recruit them. Therefore, I feel even if we get a big name coach, that doesn't neccesarily mean he will find the players. We have to find them.

The NCAA has regulations, please find them and update yourself on the rules and regulations of recruiting. Plus, it would not make a difference if we hired the 43rd army platoon to recruit. We will continue to get the type of players we have now. My question to you is, what came first the chicken or the egg. Do we have to win first to be able to recruit or can we recruit to win. If you was a good HS football player, would you come here?

bigdaddy is an idiot

I may be, but stop posting like we are on the same playing field as everybody else. Are you [deleted]. We have the type of players we have had for the last 20 years for a reason, we suck in athletics. And all you Doh fans can kiss my [deleted], he sucks and the team sucks because no athlete wants to play here. I seen Doh watch a man die on the soccer field track and never lift a finger! He sucks.

i didnt read your previous post or any of this thread, or even your reply... i just like getting you all riled up

i read your last reply for fun... you seen Doh? hahaha

Fired up, I am a 10 year old kid playing on the computer [deleted]!

[TheRealTruth]

Diamond in the Rough = Matt Forte (starting running back for Tulane/Heisman trophy candidate/ leading the nation in rushing/ rushed for 85 Yards against LSU/ from Slidell, LA - which is 40 minutes from Baton Rouge). My point, the guy could have started for LSU and LSU seemed to miss him as did other big schools. For those of you who still don't understand diamonds in the rough, here is a Texas example: Drew Brees not going to Texas.....

[FWMustangGirl]

I seen Doh watch a man die on the soccer field track and never lift a finger! He sucks.

No, no! That was a Phil Collins song.

[J.T.supporta]

if we seriously go back to hardcore cheating, ie paying recruits to come here, and get caught...AGAIN???

that would be the greatest day on PFs

[bigdaddy08091]

Diamonds in the rough are extremely rare in the Internet age. Any joe can post video of his favorite player, all major D1 schools run camps that are well reported on, coaches send tape, family send tape.

Believe me, our inability to recruit has nothing to do with a lack of information.

It has everything to do with an inability to select the right 2-3 star player. A player who can develop better than our competitors 2-3 star player. A player we can keep in school, a player that works hard, a player that wants to win.

Given our abysmal lack of Sr. and Jr. talent, it seems we are selecting players who wash out or don't want to play.

We are getting drilled by schools that - on paper - shouldn't hold a candle to SMU. How is that we are our recruited by Tulsa et al? Because they are better talent evaluators, better coaches to develop the talent.

No they do not! Major D1 schools have camps for the players who are on the bubble (have not been offered a scholarship). That is where they pick up the OTHER PLAYERS. We have players that should not be on the sidelines of any college football team, some with scholarships, Stop posting this [deleted] unless you are willing to stand outside of Turners office and hold up a sign that says you suck Turner, change the model or something. WE DO NOT RECRUIT, WE BEG! I have a granddaughter bigger than some of the players on the bench?