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by EastStang » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:59 pm
bigdaddy08091 wrote:would come here to coach. We think Bowden will come to a school that does not want football in the first place. Not with his coaching backgroud and family tradition. Coaching is a fraternity people. The coaches across the nation talk to each other daily. This is a dead end job for most coaches except someone like Coach K, who will be run out of UL at the end of the season. He will have no option but to come to SMU. Thank God, because he can win in CUSA and with little talent, but it will take him 3-5 years, so sit back and hang on. It is going to be a long ride.
First a coach would look and see that we have a promising QB who will hopefully be back for two more years. Second a coach would see facilities and traditions that date back a long time prior to the last 20 years. Third, a coach with cojones would see that he would look like the greatest coach in America if he merely had a winning season in a relatively weak conference. That's 7-5. Most coaches have confidence in themselves that even with a team full of special ed projects they can have a winning season. So, really SMU is the ideal job to repair your resume so that you can move on to bigger and better things. Many of the names mentioned are great coaches who need to put some distance with their most recent past.
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by PK » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:12 pm
Alaric wrote:I hadn't read the post yet about Bigdaddy's post being coherent. It is coherent which is different. Hmmm...must be JWill's dad this time instead of the "other" Bigdaddy.
...or he is back on his meds. 
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by bigdaddy08091 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:17 pm
EastStang wrote:bigdaddy08091 wrote:would come here to coach. We think Bowden will come to a school that does not want football in the first place. Not with his coaching backgroud and family tradition. Coaching is a fraternity people. The coaches across the nation talk to each other daily. This is a dead end job for most coaches except someone like Coach K, who will be run out of UL at the end of the season. He will have no option but to come to SMU. Thank God, because he can win in CUSA and with little talent, but it will take him 3-5 years, so sit back and hang on. It is going to be a long ride.
First a coach would look and see that we have a promising QB who will hopefully be back for two more years. Second a coach would see facilities and traditions that date back a long time prior to the last 20 years. Third, a coach with cojones would see that he would look like the greatest coach in America if he merely had a winning season in a relatively weak conference. That's 7-5. Most coaches have confidence in themselves that even with a team full of special ed projects they can have a winning season. So, really SMU is the ideal job to repair your resume so that you can move on to bigger and better things. Many of the names mentioned are great coaches who need to put some distance with their most recent past.
You lost me with the tradition thing. There is no tradition at SMU. Nobody looks back that far. That was during a time when we did not wear helmets and the OL weighed 220 lbs. The HC's coaching today were in grade school and knew nothing of SMU. There is no tradition here! There is a history here that includes paying players, losing and some other things I will not mention. Your post was going good until you mentioned tradition. Most coaches with a past would rather be an assistant at the NFL level than come to SMU. Coaching is a fraternity. They have no problem getting jobs that will pay what we are offering. We need to offer something that outlines our committment to winning, and I just don't see that.
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by SMU2007 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:26 pm
no tradition? guess you forgot about the early 80's when we had the highest winning percentage of any D1 team for a 5-6 year period. whoops
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by cs09viking » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:29 pm
bigdaddy08091 wrote:EastStang wrote:bigdaddy08091 wrote:would come here to coach. We think Bowden will come to a school that does not want football in the first place. Not with his coaching backgroud and family tradition. Coaching is a fraternity people. The coaches across the nation talk to each other daily. This is a dead end job for most coaches except someone like Coach K, who will be run out of UL at the end of the season. He will have no option but to come to SMU. Thank God, because he can win in CUSA and with little talent, but it will take him 3-5 years, so sit back and hang on. It is going to be a long ride.
First a coach would look and see that we have a promising QB who will hopefully be back for two more years. Second a coach would see facilities and traditions that date back a long time prior to the last 20 years. Third, a coach with cojones would see that he would look like the greatest coach in America if he merely had a winning season in a relatively weak conference. That's 7-5. Most coaches have confidence in themselves that even with a team full of special ed projects they can have a winning season. So, really SMU is the ideal job to repair your resume so that you can move on to bigger and better things. Many of the names mentioned are great coaches who need to put some distance with their most recent past.
You lost me with the tradition thing. There is no tradition at SMU. Nobody looks back that far. That was during a time when we did not wear helmets and the OL weighed 220 lbs. The HC's coaching today were in grade school and knew nothing of SMU. There is no tradition here! There is a history here that includes paying players, losing and some other things I will not mention. Your post was going good until you mentioned tradition. Most coaches with a past would rather be an assistant at the NFL level than come to SMU. Coaching is a fraternity. They have no problem getting jobs that will pay what we are offering. We need to offer something that outlines our committment to winning, and I just don't see that.
"No tradition at SMU...Nobody looks back that far...There is no tradition here...The HC's coaching today were in grade school and knew nothing of SMU...."
These statements discredit your opinion significantly. Game over for you.
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by EastStang » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:35 pm
I'm sorry that you don't think there's a tradition at SMU. We have had a Heisman winner, two National Championships, many players go to the NFL including several in the Hall of Fame (who did not wear leather helmets by the way), the first African American scholarship football player in SWC history, and yes, a great program for over 70 years. I would hope that we could start a new tradition of winning with our new coach. And all of the coaches named most if not all probably knew of SMU as a powerhouse while they were playing college football.
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by J.T.supporta » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:39 pm
bigdaddy08091 wrote:PK wrote:Not that it really makes a rat's [deleted] difference, but for accuracy's sake, we didn't play football for two years, thus we have only been losing for 18 years minus one winning season and one 6-6 season. Like I said, it doesn't make a rat's [deleted] difference, but I'm tired of this we have been losing for 20 years bs.
Okay, we have been losing for 18 years.
actually we had 1 winning season and finished .500 last year...
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by J.T.supporta » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:39 pm
bigdaddy08091 wrote:jtstang wrote:I don't care if you are Willis's stepfather, godfather or babydaddy, if you think he could not have played any better this year then you must think he really sucks and are not much of a friend to him. His friend jtstang knows he can do better and must.
This is the post of the year! We are 1-10! Hell yes he could have played better, along with the rest of the team. Coaches could have coached better. Calm down jt. Read my post. I never said he could not have played better. He made mistakes like every player on the team that played. There is improvements to be made. If we were 9-2 JWill would tell you there are improvements to be made. Continuing to get better is what it is all about. We are talking about 18, 19 and 20 year old. Damn right, they all have some work to do.
would any of those improvements be how he handles the ball?
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by J.T.supporta » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:42 pm
bigdaddy08091 wrote:perunapower wrote:PK wrote:Whoa...a coherent post. :shock:
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Forgot something. You cannot have a short QB and short Receivers. You wonder why we never throw the ball over the middle. JWill cannot see the little short receivers and they cannot see him. Rey and Bobby were easy, 6'3"-6'4". That opened up the middle and sidellines for Sanders. Sanders and JWill should go find Bobby and Rey and tell them thanks for a great freshman season. This recruiting crap is a mess. The young TE, (cannot think of name) is going to be great for this team. Please stay healthy! He has promise.
So does that mean JW is the problem or is it the short WRs?
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by bigdaddy08091 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:45 pm
SMU2007 wrote:no tradition? guess you forgot about the early 80's when we had the highest winning percentage of any D1 team for a 5-6 year period. whoops
We paid players, that does not count!
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by J.T.supporta » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:47 pm
bigdaddy08091 wrote:SMU2007 wrote:no tradition? guess you forgot about the early 80's when we had the highest winning percentage of any D1 team for a 5-6 year period. whoops
We paid players, that does not count!
we didnt pay players when we went to the rose bowl
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by bigdaddy08091 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:50 pm
EastStang wrote:I'm sorry that you don't think there's a tradition at SMU. We have had a Heisman winner, two National Championships, many players go to the NFL including several in the Hall of Fame (who did not wear leather helmets by the way), the first African American scholarship football player in SWC history, and yes, a great program for over 70 years. I would hope that we could start a new tradition of winning with our new coach. And all of the coaches named most if not all probably knew of SMU as a powerhouse while they were playing college football.
The definition of tradition is the handing down of knowkledge, beliefs, customs, or the like from one generation to another.
We skipped a generation in there somewhere.
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by QuikSStang » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:52 pm
bigdaddy08091 wrote:EastStang wrote:I'm sorry that you don't think there's a tradition at SMU. We have had a Heisman winner, two National Championships, many players go to the NFL including several in the Hall of Fame (who did not wear leather helmets by the way), the first African American scholarship football player in SWC history, and yes, a great program for over 70 years. I would hope that we could start a new tradition of winning with our new coach. And all of the coaches named most if not all probably knew of SMU as a powerhouse while they were playing college football.
The definition of tradition is the handing down of knowkledge, beliefs, customs, or the like from one generation to another. We skipped a generation in there somewhere.
omg, bigdaddy's first post that's understandable!
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by bigdaddy08091 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:54 pm
J.T.supporta wrote:bigdaddy08091 wrote:jtstang wrote:I don't care if you are Willis's stepfather, godfather or babydaddy, if you think he could not have played any better this year then you must think he really sucks and are not much of a friend to him. His friend jtstang knows he can do better and must.
This is the post of the year! We are 1-10! Hell yes he could have played better, along with the rest of the team. Coaches could have coached better. Calm down jt. Read my post. I never said he could not have played better. He made mistakes like every player on the team that played. There is improvements to be made. If we were 9-2 JWill would tell you there are improvements to be made. Continuing to get better is what it is all about. We are talking about 18, 19 and 20 year old. Damn right, they all have some work to do.
would any of those improvements be how he handles the ball?
That was an easy one even for you J. T. Taking care of the football would be the most important one. Hopefully our next HC will limit the number of times JWill has to play the role of run for your life, or "JWill make something happen".
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by bigdaddy08091 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:58 pm
J.T.supporta wrote:bigdaddy08091 wrote:perunapower wrote:PK wrote:Whoa...a coherent post.  
Forgot something. You cannot have a short QB and short Receivers. You wonder why we never throw the ball over the middle. JWill cannot see the little short receivers and they cannot see him. Rey and Bobby were easy, 6'3"-6'4". That opened up the middle and sidellines for Sanders. Sanders and JWill should go find Bobby and Rey and tell them thanks for a great freshman season. This recruiting crap is a mess. The young TE, (cannot think of name) is going to be great for this team. Please stay healthy! He has promise.
So does that mean JW is the problem or is it the short WRs?
Neither is the problem. They just must work with what God gave them.
Where is TWSS when you need him.
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