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StangEsq wrote:
Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:I wonder if Orsini's sitting in front of a computer with a beer and reading all this stuff and saying "Oh boy is this great!"


Orsini, if you're reading this... show me a sign...


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biggin wrote:Folks - as I told you early on in this process, there seems to be very little interest in this job. Orsini is swinging and missing. I have been told by two different sources SMU offered to both Kragthorpe and Nutt and has been turned down. Don't know but if the rumors that Greg Davis has been contacted about his interest are true this would fit with my personal research. Orsini is having to dig deep. That tells me we probably will not be happy. We may be lucky to get a coach period.

Damn it - if Barnett is interested, I don't know what Orsini is thinking not gonig for him - other than his hands are tied by TUrner or the admin. But take off the blinders and stop listening to your leaders who are telling you that everything will be rosy.


I don't think any job was offered unless it was reasonably assured it would be taken. Sort of like "If I ask you out, will you accept?"

Orsini may have had KRAG and BD on the top of the list...but by them denying interest is a tell tale sign that the job was offered to SOMEONE ELSE and they are backpedaling to keep their current jobs...
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perunapower wrote:
StangEsq wrote:
Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:I wonder if Orsini's sitting in front of a computer with a beer and reading all this stuff and saying "Oh boy is this great!"


Orsini, if you're reading this... show me a sign...


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There are slow children playing.

Here's your sign. :)


Crap... I was hoping for something like this:

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Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:
biggin wrote:Folks - as I told you early on in this process, there seems to be very little interest in this job. Orsini is swinging and missing. I have been told by two different sources SMU offered to both Kragthorpe and Nutt and has been turned down. Don't know but if the rumors that Greg Davis has been contacted about his interest are true this would fit with my personal research. Orsini is having to dig deep. That tells me we probably will not be happy. We may be lucky to get a coach period.

Damn it - if Barnett is interested, I don't know what Orsini is thinking not gonig for him - other than his hands are tied by TUrner or the admin. But take off the blinders and stop listening to your leaders who are telling you that everything will be rosy.


Talk is cheap, but money buys drinks. And if SMU has put together the amount of money that has been reported, people are going to listen. You don't put together nine million to hire Greg Davis. This job also has one of the biggest payoffs in Division 1A to offset the potential pitfalls. However, it will take someone special to help this University realize its football potential.

Right now, I count myself in the group that believes Orsini has already hired his man. It is incredibly, incredibly quiet from the Hilltop. There has not been word one said about any of these rumors. So far it has been night and day different from Baylor's (beginning) search. The wallets are open, the job carries a good deal of potential, and Orsini has a track record and is a very good businessman in the sports arena.

I don't have the slightest idea how this is gonna turn out, but if it's some big name or someone out of left field I'm gonna call him the Puppet Master from now on.


If you havent already done so you should watch the NFL Films on the Mustangs/Death Penalty. Bennett actually said he was told not to take the job by everyone - that it was a COACHING GRAVEYARD and implied that in fact that is what it was. Nothing has changed to make this a good job in Div.1a. All the money in the world couldn't get me to live in a place like Haiti or Afghanistan. All the money in the world might not get a great coach who likes coaching and wants to win the NC to pick a job where there is a good chance he will be out of coaching in 5 years.

My research has shown me that there is little interest in this job. Bowden does not want this job - at least not right now. Other top candidates who will get other HC jobs this year are not interested. I know this firsthand. There is a reason. See above.
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biggin wrote: Orsini is swinging and missing..

Orsini ain't swinging and missing. He connected. It's a home run. As soon as he rounds the bases, the announcement will be made from home plate. Relax. You will be surprised and encouraged. Patience is a virtue. Happy Thanksgiving.
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Bergermeister wrote:
biggin wrote: Orsini is swinging and missing..

Orsini ain't swinging and missing. He connected. It's a home run. As soon as he rounds the bases, the announcement will be made from home plate. Relax. You will be surprised and encouraged. Patience is a virtue. Happy Thanksgiving.


I hope your right. But how do you explain the Greg Davis reports? (I don't know if these are right or wrong, just that Austin American Statesman reported it.) That would be a bunt, if we're using baseball analogies. I just don't see it.

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ALEX LIFESON wrote:There may be something to the theory, that the mob boss already has made an " offer that can't be refused". With all of the eyes watching and listening, something, or someone should have been spotted if we were doing interviews.


Not necessarily. He may have conducted interviews out of town, or had his man already picked prior to firing Bennett. Perhaps he agreed in principle with someone when he made that trip to Notre Dame to celebrate the 1977 National Championship. If he's got his man already, we wouldn't necessarily know a thing about it.
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biggin wrote:
Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:
biggin wrote:Folks - as I told you early on in this process, there seems to be very little interest in this job. Orsini is swinging and missing. I have been told by two different sources SMU offered to both Kragthorpe and Nutt and has been turned down. Don't know but if the rumors that Greg Davis has been contacted about his interest are true this would fit with my personal research. Orsini is having to dig deep. That tells me we probably will not be happy. We may be lucky to get a coach period.

Damn it - if Barnett is interested, I don't know what Orsini is thinking not gonig for him - other than his hands are tied by TUrner or the admin. But take off the blinders and stop listening to your leaders who are telling you that everything will be rosy.


Talk is cheap, but money buys drinks. And if SMU has put together the amount of money that has been reported, people are going to listen. You don't put together nine million to hire Greg Davis. This job also has one of the biggest payoffs in Division 1A to offset the potential pitfalls. However, it will take someone special to help this University realize its football potential.

Right now, I count myself in the group that believes Orsini has already hired his man. It is incredibly, incredibly quiet from the Hilltop. There has not been word one said about any of these rumors. So far it has been night and day different from Baylor's (beginning) search. The wallets are open, the job carries a good deal of potential, and Orsini has a track record and is a very good businessman in the sports arena.

I don't have the slightest idea how this is gonna turn out, but if it's some big name or someone out of left field I'm gonna call him the Puppet Master from now on.


If you havent already done so you should watch the NFL Films on the Mustangs/Death Penalty. Bennett actually said he was told not to take the job by everyone - that it was a COACHING GRAVEYARD and implied that in fact that is what it was. Nothing has changed to make this a good job in Div.1a. All the money in the world couldn't get me to live in a place like Haiti or Afghanistan. All the money in the world might not get a great coach who likes coaching and wants to win the NC to pick a job where there is a good chance he will be out of coaching in 5 years.

My research has shown me that there is little interest in this job. Bowden does not want this job - at least not right now. Other top candidates who will get other HC jobs this year are not interested. I know this firsthand. There is a reason. See above.


Thank you SUPER FROG! Glad to know that you have done so much research. I bet you have spent every working hour DEVOTED to SMU's coaching search either because you don't have a life or because you REALLY don't have a life. Also it is interesting that you know Bowden intimately enough to state that he does not want the job, at least not right now! I'm sure that you are so well connected that you can make these prognostications and we, of course, are supposed to unquestionally believe everything that you say. If you know so much, I'm sure you will let us all know who Orsini has contacted and that person's intimate thoughts about the job. I will be waiting with abated breath for your next words of wisdom! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Bergermeister wrote:
biggin wrote: Orsini is swinging and missing..

Orsini ain't swinging and missing. He connected. It's a home run. As soon as he rounds the bases, the announcement will be made from home plate. Relax. You will be surprised and encouraged. Patience is a virtue. Happy Thanksgiving.


We got alot of bat boys making comments from the dugout. Lets hope you guys know the real deal. this sounds very encouraging.
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As well as a very active peanut gallery (biggin) that are totally without a clue.
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Orsini could have been feeling the offensive co-ordinator of Notre Dame...as a possibility, on the trip...Many feel that he would be nice fit for our school...offensive co-ordinator for Texas when Young led the Longhorns to championship...Being african american will help us in recruiting also. Guess we will have to wake up one day and read it in the papers...seems no real leaks have happened...all rumors are just part of the rumor mill I guess...Go Mustangs!!!
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funny that Turner Gill is the front runner at Nebraska by many accounts, yet if he doesn't get the Husker job people don't think he is good enough for SMU. I'll take Nebraskas leftovers anyday especially if he is a high profile player, qb, smart player, winner, ethical, personable, and happens to be black and from the Metroplex.
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Ponymon wrote:
biggin wrote:
Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:
biggin wrote:Folks - as I told you early on in this process, there seems to be very little interest in this job. Orsini is swinging and missing. I have been told by two different sources SMU offered to both Kragthorpe and Nutt and has been turned down. Don't know but if the rumors that Greg Davis has been contacted about his interest are true this would fit with my personal research. Orsini is having to dig deep. That tells me we probably will not be happy. We may be lucky to get a coach period.

Damn it - if Barnett is interested, I don't know what Orsini is thinking not gonig for him - other than his hands are tied by TUrner or the admin. But take off the blinders and stop listening to your leaders who are telling you that everything will be rosy.


Talk is cheap, but money buys drinks. And if SMU has put together the amount of money that has been reported, people are going to listen. You don't put together nine million to hire Greg Davis. This job also has one of the biggest payoffs in Division 1A to offset the potential pitfalls. However, it will take someone special to help this University realize its football potential.

Right now, I count myself in the group that believes Orsini has already hired his man. It is incredibly, incredibly quiet from the Hilltop. There has not been word one said about any of these rumors. So far it has been night and day different from Baylor's (beginning) search. The wallets are open, the job carries a good deal of potential, and Orsini has a track record and is a very good businessman in the sports arena.

I don't have the slightest idea how this is gonna turn out, but if it's some big name or someone out of left field I'm gonna call him the Puppet Master from now on.


If you havent already done so you should watch the NFL Films on the Mustangs/Death Penalty. Bennett actually said he was told not to take the job by everyone - that it was a COACHING GRAVEYARD and implied that in fact that is what it was. Nothing has changed to make this a good job in Div.1a. All the money in the world couldn't get me to live in a place like Haiti or Afghanistan. All the money in the world might not get a great coach who likes coaching and wants to win the NC to pick a job where there is a good chance he will be out of coaching in 5 years.

My research has shown me that there is little interest in this job. Bowden does not want this job - at least not right now. Other top candidates who will get other HC jobs this year are not interested. I know this firsthand. There is a reason. See above.


Thank you SUPER FROG! Glad to know that you have done so much research. I bet you have spent every working hour DEVOTED to SMU's coaching search either because you don't have a life or because you REALLY don't have a life. Also it is interesting that you know Bowden intimately enough to state that he does not want the job, at least not right now! I'm sure that you are so well connected that you can make these prognostications and we, of course, are supposed to unquestionally believe everything that you say. If you know so much, I'm sure you will let us all know who Orsini has contacted and that person's intimate thoughts about the job. I will be waiting with abated breath for your next words of wisdom! :roll: :roll: :roll:


Thanks for the Toad name-calling. Sorry you don't like what I have to say. I know it is not easy facing reality sometimes. We all want to believe that we have not fallen so far from the 1982 National Championship and that the football world still remembers and respects SMU. Hopefully Orsini will get the next Nick Saban or Urban Meyer. Look for Dave Christensen as the top candidate now.
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ALEX LIFESON wrote:There may be something to the theory, that the mob boss already has made an " offer that can't be refused". With all of the eyes watching and listening, something, or someone should have been spotted if we were doing interviews.


Alex, no offer. Orsini has his man the day he was hired as AD. I have posted this about 20 times. When he was hired he knew who he wanted to bring in. Part of the job of an AD coming into a new job, have your people in place. It is someone he has been aquainted with for sometime. We just have to guess who that is. Follow his administative trail and find our coach. Too much research for me.
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biggin wrote:
Bergermeister wrote:
biggin wrote: Orsini is swinging and missing..

Orsini ain't swinging and missing. He connected. It's a home run. As soon as he rounds the bases, the announcement will be made from home plate. Relax. You will be surprised and encouraged. Patience is a virtue. Happy Thanksgiving.


I hope your right. But how do you explain the Greg Davis reports? (I don't know if these are right or wrong, just that Austin American Statesman reported it.) That would be a bunt, if we're using baseball analogies. I just don't see it.

Happy Thanksgiving to you too!


Biggin, everyone in Austin would love to see Greg Davis at SMU. They've been peddling him for years.

If UT could get him traded to SMU, Applewhite would be flashing the hook 'em sign before Bevo took his next crap.
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