Coach Franchione

couch 'em · Post by **couch 'em** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:18 pm

I don't care if he is the biggest [deleted] in all of college football. If he doesn't get arrested, keeps the program out of (major) trouble, and brings WINS, he is a great hire.

Get real people. Whether or not he is a 'nice guy' DOES NOT MATTER!

We cannot be selective!

ReedFrawg · Post by **ReedFrawg** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:19 pm

FWMustang wrote:ReedFrawg, I care.

Ok, no not really. It's like Michael Scott on the Office trying to say something nice about Toby, the HR guy. I just can't summon it for a Froggie.

I understand...and it smells like up-dog in here...

mrydel · Post by **mrydel** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:22 pm

ReedFrawg wrote:
mrydel wrote:Exactly. I am not saying I want Fran and no one else. I want someone who can hit the ground running and spur this program into high gear. Someone like Fran could do this in my opinion. There are others too, but I would be delighted with Fran.

I'm not saying Fran wouldn't be successful at SMU...I just think he lacks class. I'm glad he did what he did for TCU but I simply have to question his character (and it is not because he left TCU). Plus, I wouldn't be able to pull for SMU anymore (not that you all would care:).

Sure you could. I would cheer for you if you hired Bennett back. :lol:

ReedFrawg · Post by **ReedFrawg** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:23 pm

couch 'em wrote:I don't care if he is the biggest [deleted] in all of college football. If he doesn't get arrested, keeps the program out of (major) trouble, and brings WINS, he is a great hire.

Get real people. Whether or not he is a 'nice guy' DOES NOT MATTER!

We cannot be selective!

It's not that he is or isn't a nice guy (he comes across in person as a very nice guy), it's that he has questionable character and hasn't always done the classy/right thing when it comes to his players.

mrydel · Post by **mrydel** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:24 pm

But he would be OUR [deleted]

FWMustang · Post by **FWMustang** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:26 pm

ReedFrawg wrote:
couch 'em wrote:I don't care if he is the biggest [deleted] in all of college football. If he doesn't get arrested, keeps the program out of (major) trouble, and brings WINS, he is a great hire.

Get real people. Whether or not he is a 'nice guy' DOES NOT MATTER!

We cannot be selective!

It's not that he is or isn't a nice guy (he comes across in person as a very nice guy), it's that he has questionable character and hasn't always done the classy/right thing when it comes to his players.

RF-

That right there is the kicker IMO. He can show up the AD, and double-talk boosters and probably still earn a living. But if does that (and I think his record show he has) to his players at every stop, how can he continue to be a successful college coach burning bridges every place he goes?

friarwolf · Post by **friarwolf** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:28 pm

FWMustang wrote:
BrianTinBigD wrote:
FWMustangGirl wrote:We already know his ego is too big for the Metroplex.

Is there something personal about Fran you would like to share?

Did you not see that display after the game Friday? They had just beat their biggest (and only) rival, and those kids and the university had all of 1 hour to relish it, because he needed to be in the spotlight, get the upper hand on BB and be THE story, instead of that team of kids that he "cares so much for."

What a phony!

I disagree FW. Fran made the announcement because Byrne was right beside him with his prepared remarks and obviously, he already had his new coach signed and sealed. As far as Fran's personality, his kids sure backed him so he's got that going for him. I'll gladly take a prickly head coach if he wins......

LakeHighlandsPony · Post by **LakeHighlandsPony** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:29 pm

You hated Terrell Owens until we go 10-1. You will all love Franchione. Beating TCU with Franchione will be the most fun you can have with your clothes on.

mrydel · Post by **mrydel** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:29 pm

FWMustang wrote:That right there is the kicker IMO. He can show up the AD, and double-talk boosters and probably still earn a living. But if does that (and I think his record show he has) to his players at every stop, how can he continue to be a successful college coach burning bridges every place he goes?

Because we are the worst team in the nation and if the players do not like it they can all be replaced by equal or better players and they need to realize that from the outset.

ebrooks11 · Post by **ebrooks11** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:31 pm

Unfortunaley there are not a lot of Tom Landrys out there who have never sinned and can win at football. Almost every coach in america has baggage that we know of and some that we dont know of. Fran has a few kinks in his armor but who doesnt. You ought to see my armor.

Pony in SA · Post by **Pony in SA** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:33 pm

That's my concern, and the concern I mentioned also about recruiting.

Recruiting at SMU is hard enough without having someone point out our new coach loves to leave players without having the nerve to at least address them, or will write letters about them and their performance for money to selective boosters.

By the way, as for the coaches down here at Smithson Valley, Madison, Reagan, and Alamo Heights who I know personally (and even saw some over the holiday) not a one of them liked Fran or the way he went about his business, even those who were Aggies. Again, he may be an improvement but I would prefer someone else.

BrianTinBigD · Post by **BrianTinBigD** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:39 pm

Current A&M class-

Josh Ayers OL 6-5 282 5 5.5 Euless, TX
Aaron Buckley LB 6-1 225 4.54 5.4 Palacios, TX
Randy Bullock K 5-9 215 - 5.5 Klein, TX
Blake Chavis DE 6-5 230 - 5.7 Beaumont, TX
LeRoy Chevalier OL 6-6 325 - 5.6 Houston, TX
Rod Davis DT 6-2 300 - 5.8 Aldine, TX
Tommy Dorman QB 6-3 204 4.63 5.6 North Richland Hills, TX
Adren Dorsey DT 6-4 285 4.8 5.6 Tyler, TX
Jordan Fields DB 6-0 187 4.55 5.7 Paris, TX
Keon Furtch DB 6-2 180 4.5 5.7 Paris, TX
Derrick Hall ATH 5-10 201 - 5.9 Beaumont, TX
Lamar Harris ATH 6-2 179 - 5.8 Gilmer, TX
Jeffrey Hyde OL 6-7 280 - 5.5 Colleyville, TX
Tony Jerod DE 6-3 249 4.6 5.8 DeSoto, TX
Sedrick Johnson WR 6-4 200 4.5 5.8 Arp, TX
Chris Lathrop OL 6-4 288 4.9 5.7 Cypress, TX
Kapron Lewis-Moore DE 6-4 225 4.75 5.8 Weatherford, TX
Kyle Mangan LB 6-2 225 4.6 5.5 Brenham, TX
Markelle Martin DB 6-1 180 4.55 5.8 Wichita Falls, TX
Matt Moss DE 6-4 270 4.7 5.8 El Cajon, CA
Brian Thomas OL 6-3 265 5 5.7 Pearland, TX
Joe Villavisencio OL 6-4 305 - 5.4 Jacksonville, TX
K.J. Williams ATH 6-4 235 4.73 5.7 Norman, OK
Andrew Wolridge DE 6-2 235 4.5 5.8 Lexington, TX

Apparently he doesn't need the boys in the Northern SA area. His DFW and Houston pipelines are pretty good.

FWMustang · Post by **FWMustang** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:40 pm

I am not as much concerned with the current SMU players. Everywhere he has been he has had one foot out the door the day he stepped on campus (that and his hand in someone's pocket.) Most guys that reach a certain level, probably are [deleted]; it's goes with the territory. But he just has been untrustworthy, two-faced and greedy. A-hole I can handle. Those last three are intolerable.

friarwolf · Post by **friarwolf** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:43 pm

Quit beating around the bush, FW. Tell us how you really feel.........

FWMustangGirl · Post by **FWMustangGirl** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:45 pm

friarwolf wrote:Quit beating around the bush, FW. Tell us how you really feel.........

So if we think the guy is a crappy hire, we are supposed to put on our happy faces? I think not.