What's Spurrier up to?

[East Coast Mustang]

I swear I think some people at Ponyfans are on quaaludes...Steve Spurrier? Butch Davis? One of my "sources" tells me that Wade Phillips was spotted in Dallas the other day, do you think he might be interested?

Please read a little more carefully. No one suggested that Spurrier was spotted, contacted or expressed interest. The point was merely that Spurrier may be interested in leaving South Carolina and that as far as I am concerned if that is true we should at least make an overture to him.

Do you doubt that he is the best available coach if he is in fact available?

Maybe he is, but there is no way in hell that he would come to SMU...from his standpoint, I'd much rather go to Duke than SMU. He could recruit well there, and it is in a BCS conference meaning more media exposure, money, and more prestigious bowls. I can't even believe we're discussing this. I don't think theres any way he leaves South Carolina for Duke, but if he does it would be a lateral move at the very worst, such as Arkansas or even LSU if Miles bolts (which would definitely be a step up from Carolina). Remember, he turned down Alabama a year ago, what makes you think we even have a remote shot? The only way we're getting a BCS head coach is if he's fired, such as Kragthorpe at U of L.

[J.T.supporta]

Doesn't U of H have an opening someone here should be spending time opining about?

Yes.. I have a meeting with Dave Maggard houstons AD in the morning :lol:

The food/money exchange at the drive through window does not constitute a meeting.

A

[Mustang1991]

I swear I think some people at Ponyfans are on quaaludes...Steve Spurrier? Butch Davis? One of my "sources" tells me that Wade Phillips was spotted in Dallas the other day, do you think he might be interested?

Please read a little more carefully. No one suggested that Spurrier was spotted, contacted or expressed interest. The point was merely that Spurrier may be interested in leaving South Carolina and that as far as I am concerned if that is true we should at least make an overture to him.

Do you doubt that he is the best available coach if he is in fact available?

Maybe he is, but there is no way in hell that he would come to SMU...from his standpoint, I'd much rather go to Duke than SMU. He could recruit well there, and it is in a BCS conference meaning more media exposure, money, and more prestigious bowls. I can't even believe we're discussing this. I don't think theres any way he leaves South Carolina for Duke, but if he does it would be a lateral move at the very worst, such as Arkansas or even LSU if Miles bolts (which would definitely be a step up from Carolina). Remember, he turned down Alabama a year ago, what makes you think we even have a remote shot? The only way we're getting a BCS head coach is if he's fired, such as Kragthorpe at U of L.

I'm not so sure he would rather be in Durham than Dallas. Durham is a small stage, regardless of Duke's ACC-BCS affiliation. There are also other major ACC programs he would be competing against, like Boston College, Virginia Tech, Miami and Florida State. Dallas, on the other hand, is a major media market. Is there any job opening in a media market bigger than Dallas at the moment other than Houston? And CUSA offers a better opportunity for on-field success than the ACC.

[East Coast Mustang]

I swear I think some people at Ponyfans are on quaaludes...Steve Spurrier? Butch Davis? One of my "sources" tells me that Wade Phillips was spotted in Dallas the other day, do you think he might be interested?

Please read a little more carefully. No one suggested that Spurrier was spotted, contacted or expressed interest. The point was merely that Spurrier may be interested in leaving South Carolina and that as far as I am concerned if that is true we should at least make an overture to him.

Do you doubt that he is the best available coach if he is in fact available?

Maybe he is, but there is no way in hell that he would come to SMU...from his standpoint, I'd much rather go to Duke than SMU. He could recruit well there, and it is in a BCS conference meaning more media exposure, money, and more prestigious bowls. I can't even believe we're discussing this. I don't think theres any way he leaves South Carolina for Duke, but if he does it would be a lateral move at the very worst, such as Arkansas or even LSU if Miles bolts (which would definitely be a step up from Carolina). Remember, he turned down Alabama a year ago, what makes you think we even have a remote shot? The only way we're getting a BCS head coach is if he's fired, such as Kragthorpe at U of L.

I'm not so sure he would rather be in Durham than Dallas. Durham is a small stage, regardless of Duke's ACC-BCS affiliation. There are also other major ACC programs he would be competing against, like Boston College, Virginia Tech, Miami and Florida State. Dallas, on the other hand, is a major media market. Is there any job opening in a media market bigger than Dallas at the moment other than Houston? And CUSA offers a better opportunity for on-field success than the ACC.

Yeah Durham is small stage, just like Lincoln, Norman, Athens, and Gainesville to name a few. Dallas doesn't mean s**t when it comes to attracting a coach to SMU anymore, that's like Florida Atlantic pimping their Miami connection, although we obviously are a better job than FAU. That being said, Spurrier would be one of the marquee coaches in the ACC even at Duke alongside Bobby Bowden and Frank Beamer. He would bring in solid classes and I would wager that he would have them bowling within 2-3 years. But theres no way in hell hes leaving Carolina for Duke, it makes no sense. SC is probably one of the worst gigs in the SEC, but its way better than Duke and light years ahead of SMU in CUSA.

[PonyFanBCLA]

If Spurrier is considering leaving USC because he doesnt think he can get the tools to compete for a Championship (SEC or otherwise) do you really think he would go to Duke?

[Mustang1991]

I agree about leaving SC for Duke. That's what makes the meeting with the Duke AD all the more intriguing. It appears SS wants out at SC, and if that is true we should be doing our part to make it happen.

And btw Durham is "small-stage" in football, which is what we're talking about. How many times has Duke's football team played on national TV in the last 5 years? Probably less than the basketball team did last year alone.

[East Coast Mustang]

[quote="Mustang1991"]I agree about leaving SC for Duke. That's what makes the meeting with the Duke AD all the more intriguing. It appears SS wants out at SC, and if that is true we should be doing our part to make it happen.

And btw Durham is "small-stage" in football, which is what we're talking about. How many times has Duke's football team played on national TV in the last 5 years? Probably less than the basketball team did last year alone.[/quote]

Would you leave South Carolina for SMU? Please answer honestly

[SMUMan02]

Are you being serious? Try forgetting your an SMU fan and ask yourself that question.

Yes, I am serious. If there is a successful coach like Spurrier out there that is available, at least in the sense that he is not irrevocably wedded to his current job, why not make a run at him? Particularly when the school he is apparently interviewing with has less to offer from a football perspective. IT'S TIME TO TAKE A CHANCE. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. What's the harm in trying?

I think he is arrogant and obnoxious and a complete disaster as a pro coach, but the man knows college FB and I have the utmost respect for him as a college football coach.

Because he has NO interest in a job like this. South Carolina has rabid fan support - even when they suck, and he is a god there. He is singular in the world of college football and he could have ANY job he wanted - open or not. Put the pipe down and think about what you are writing.

[Dukie]

Spurrier still loves Duke from his time there and the fact that Duke gave him a job post-USFL when no one else would. For that reason alone he'd go to Duke when he might not go elsewhere. Spurrier could have been in Derm for a friendly chat, or could have been putting pressure on So Carolina to give more $$). If he was really talking seriously, the only way it makes sense is that he's setting up his son to take over in 5 years (no way Duke would hire SS Jr today, though).

Stallion, Pye was Chancellor at Duke but he never had the sort of authority over athletics there that he did at SMU, and Duke never followed anything like the "Pye Model" as thoroughly as it was implemented at SMU. Ironically, Spurrier always loved that Duke didn't follow the lowest common denominator (which is why he gives them what is actually an extremely condescending 1-point vote in the first coaches' poll each year in football), so I doubt he'd be there arguing for loosened standards anyway.

And the Duke basketball team has already been on national TV several more times THIS SEASON than the football team in the last decade (Duke @ Notre Dame this year is the only nationally televised Duke football game I am sure happened in this millenium, and boy was it hard to watch).

[Stallion]

Then why did he leave. Come on you know better than that. He would never consider coaching under those restrictions now that he has options. Get real.

[Duke Blue Blood]

This is stupid. They called him in as an advisor. Case Closed.

DBB

[ponyinNC]

This is stupid. They called him in as an advisor. Case Closed.

DBB

yup

[Stallion]

I agree-much as I'm sure Orsini called many Coaches and Football officials in the industry. I've heard that Duke will reduce football recruiting restrictions as an enticement to the new coach as well. 6-45 tells the story. I'd bet those issues were discussed during those meetings as well or they might as well have just never met at all.

[Dukie]

Then why did he leave. Come on you know better than that. He would never consider coaching under those restrictions now that he has options. Get real.

Stallion, you are knowledgeable enough to know that Spurrier left for his dream job at his alma mater. But I also think you're reading things into my post that aren't there. Note that I didn't argue that Spurrier is going to Duke, and certainly didn't argue that he will go there under current standards.

I just don't think he's up there arguing for Duke to lower standards.

[Pony Soup]

It may be tough to recruit football players at Duke since their team parties dont get anything close to the media attention that the lacrosse parties get. What football players want to play second fiddle to an air guitar?