For those who question Johnson's ability to recruit Texas

[StallionsModelT]

Don't you know Stallion gets his panties wet trying to show you how brilliant he is? For crying out loud he calls it "The Stallion Model".

[bigdaddy08091]

I think he is perfect.... undersized RBs and mobile QBs who dont accurately throw the football... seems to me like all the puzzle piece are already in place....

You need three RB's Nick. We don't have three. You need an OL that can run block. We don't have a run blocking OL. Our QB threw 25 TD's and damn near 3000 yards on a 1-11 team? PJ is not the fit here. We live in an area where everyone runs the spread offense. Go to some high school games and see for yourself. This could be doom for the recruiting process. Now, have another drink of that hateraid!

[bigdaddy08091]

What I find telling is that the Naval Prep Academy never publishes a roster of their team. Yet when you search for stories on Navy players they inevitably say they started at the Naval Prep Academy. I posted a story about I believe the 2004 Navy starting lineup that said half their players started at the Naval Prep Academy. They run huge numbers of players through their Varsity and Prep teams-they are not restricted by NCAA rules on recruiting, roster limits plus they have their academies. As I posted earlier the Navy Roster has 160 players-about 90% above NCAA restrictions. Assuming 160 on their Varsity Roster and say 50 on their Prep Roster per year then during a 4 year period that is 360 sleepers they can run through their rosters-that's over 15 players for each position on the field. The Academy Model has lead to something like 23 Bowl Games (if Navy and Air Force go bowling this year) since SMU last went to a Bowl Game. The last 7 or so transfers to SMU from these Academies/Prep Schools have immediately started at SMU. I posted the backup on this within the last 2 months-find it if you don't believe me. Once again SMU is picking a Coach who has built his program on a Model that does not fit logically with the requirements of the SMU job.

What transfers have started? Pete Phelps has yet to see the field, other than special teams. Ryan Leanord rotated at DT and then had some academic issues. I am looking for the transfers Stallion.

[Alaric]

Stallion, Paul Johnson has brought in good players and won BIG against his peers at Georgia Southern and has done the same thing against Navy. Those are two VASTLY different models - he shows an ability to be adaptable and successful under differing circumstances.

You also talk a lot about the advantages of Navy's model and to be honest, it does have some advantages so a good comparison is West Point & the AFA. They have those same advantages and he beats the crap out of them. He's only lost once to them since he's been the head coach at Navy. While it's gotta be nice to weed through 150 kids, he's weeding through 150 all-district, under-sized kids, finding talent and beating the likes of Notre Dame and Pittsburgh.

Another thing is that Navy doesn't redshirt so the advantage of an added year of prep school is partially mitigated there (I know Notre Dame doesn't redshirt and I know Stallion's main argument to the benefit of prep schools isn't the extra year of maturity and experience it's being able to weed through a lot of kids but the extra year is significant). Navy only lost by what, 2 points to BC last year in a bowl and would have beaten them if not for a late fumble. I'm in if we can be lucky enough to get Paul Johnson.

[Alaric]

Luke Johnson transfered from the AFA, started immediately and was some type of all conference player back in the late 90's...don't know of any others.

[KnuckleStang]

There are no "advantages" to coaching a service academy on a d-1 schedule. I'm sorry.

[George S. Patton]

I think he is perfect.... undersized RBs and mobile QBs who dont accurately throw the football... seems to me like all the puzzle piece are already in place....

You need three RB's Nick. We don't have three. You need an OL that can run block. We don't have a run blocking OL. Our QB threw 25 TD's and damn near 3000 yards on a 1-11 team? PJ is not the fit here. We live in an area where everyone runs the spread offense. Go to some high school games and see for yourself. This could be doom for the recruiting process. Now, have another drink of that hateraid!

Pops, If you're going to have a triple-option, you first need the OL to block for that. I don't know if his offense is more man or zone blocking. The key with the current group is going to be the repetitions.

This is an apples and oranges example but when Bryan Erwin left LaMarque to come to FM Marcus, he took the same linemen who were in the spread philosophy and worked the dog out of them to get to his pro-style power-I change.

I read a story in the local paper where the linemen said it was hard at first but they had to move their but they adjusted and produced a 1,700-yard rushers.

As for your backs, it will depend on how Butler, Mapps and Martin adjust to this.

But we also don't know if this will be a true triple option should he be the coach. If he is, we'll know once he's asked at the press conference and even then, I wouldn't take his answer at face value until you either see in practice or the spring game.

BTW, if you call what our OL did this year as blocking because Willis was running for his life 50 percent of the time.

[mustang91]

Big Daddy I really thought you knew something about football? Offensive lineman are run blockers by nature. Pass blocking in unnatural and rarely perfected, if you noticed over the past 20 years our most successful QB's are the one's that can scramble. Example Ramone and Justin and as we all have seen Justin can run the ball. Sure he is not a pure option QB, but his ability to throw will only make the option more deadly. We don't have runningbacks you say? What is Martin, Mapps, Butler and the other redshirt freshman, I can't think of his name but heard good things about him? Johnson is not going to come in here and not use Justin's ability to throw the ball. I read yesterday on a link here on Ponyfans his quote saying if he had a QB that could throw his offensive would be even better.

No offense but I'll have to take Steve O's judgement on Johnson over yours and Stallions.

[mustang91]

Thanks general I didn't read your post before I starting mine, but it sounds like were on the same page.

[bigdaddy08091]

Big Daddy I really thought you knew something about football? Offensive lineman are run blockers by nature. Pass blocking in unnatural and rarely perfected, if you noticed over the past 20 years our most successful QB's are the one's that can scramble. Example Ramone and Justin and as we all have seen Justin can run the ball. Sure he is not a pure option QB, but his ability to throw will only make the option more deadly. We don't have runningbacks you say? What is Martin, Mapps, Butler and the other redshirt freshman, I can't think of his name but heard good things about him? Johnson is not going to come in here and not use Justin's ability to throw the ball. I read yesterday on a link here on Ponyfans his quote saying if he had a QB that could throw his offensive would be even better.

No offense but I'll have to take Steve O's judgement on Johnson over yours and Stallions.

That is what you should do!

Offensive lineman zone block these days more than anything. It is not the same as firing off the ball like the old days. Defenses are too complicated. What did you say about pass blocking is unnatural? I won't even comment on that line of crap.

I am not worrying about JWill and how any coach will use him. JWill will do whatever is best for the team, corner, safety, RB. We better find a QB if/when we do move him. The team is my concern, as well as winning. We do not have a nuecleus of player to run the offense PJ is running now. If he can adapt, which I know he can, we are good to go. But run the option here, hell no!

[mustang91]

Big Daddy I really thought you knew something about football? Offensive lineman are run blockers by nature. Pass blocking in unnatural and rarely perfected, if you noticed over the past 20 years our most successful QB's are the one's that can scramble. Example Ramone and Justin and as we all have seen Justin can run the ball. Sure he is not a pure option QB, but his ability to throw will only make the option more deadly. We don't have runningbacks you say? What is Martin, Mapps, Butler and the other redshirt freshman, I can't think of his name but heard good things about him? Johnson is not going to come in here and not use Justin's ability to throw the ball. I read yesterday on a link here on Ponyfans his quote saying if he had a QB that could throw his offensive would be even better.

No offense but I'll have to take Steve O's judgement on Johnson over yours and Stallions.

That is what you should do!

Offensive lineman zone block these days more than anything. It is not the same as firing off the ball like the old days. Defenses are too complicated. What did you say about pass blocking is unnatural? I won't even comment on that line of crap.

I am not worrying about JWill and how any coach will use him. JWill will do whatever is best for the team, corner, safety, RB. We better find a QB if/when we do move him. The team is my concern, as well as winning. We do not have a nuecleus of player to run the offense PJ is running now. If he can adapt, which I know he can, we are good to go. But run the option here, hell no!

I'm not going to argue with you but as a former offensevie lineman at SMU I know a little bit about run and pass blocking. That is my experience and I would be willing to bet the house if you talked to most offesive lineman they would agree. There is as much time practicing the technique of pass blocking as there is practicing the weekly plays. Any offensive lineman that makes to the Div 1 level can be taught to zone block but not all OL can pass block and that's a fact. Why do you think great pass blocking OL are some of the top picks in the draft. You don't hear of an OL being drafted in top rounds because they are only great run blockers. Trust me it's unatural for a 300 pound plus OL to block and 250 pounds DE that runs a 4.6. I've seen guys who can run block there butt off, but on an island with DL on passing situation and they'll get beat most of the time.

[bigdaddy08091]

Big Daddy I really thought you knew something about football? Offensive lineman are run blockers by nature. Pass blocking in unnatural and rarely perfected, if you noticed over the past 20 years our most successful QB's are the one's that can scramble. Example Ramone and Justin and as we all have seen Justin can run the ball. Sure he is not a pure option QB, but his ability to throw will only make the option more deadly. We don't have runningbacks you say? What is Martin, Mapps, Butler and the other redshirt freshman, I can't think of his name but heard good things about him? Johnson is not going to come in here and not use Justin's ability to throw the ball. I read yesterday on a link here on Ponyfans his quote saying if he had a QB that could throw his offensive would be even better.

No offense but I'll have to take Steve O's judgement on Johnson over yours and Stallions.

That is what you should do!

Offensive lineman zone block these days more than anything. It is not the same as firing off the ball like the old days. Defenses are too complicated. What did you say about pass blocking is unnatural? I won't even comment on that line of crap.

I am not worrying about JWill and how any coach will use him. JWill will do whatever is best for the team, corner, safety, RB. We better find a QB if/when we do move him. The team is my concern, as well as winning. We do not have a nuecleus of player to run the offense PJ is running now. If he can adapt, which I know he can, we are good to go. But run the option here, hell no!

I'm not going to argue with you but as a former offensevie lineman at SMU I know a little bit about run and pass blocking. That is my experience and I would be willing to bet the house if you talked to most offesive lineman they would agree. There is as much time practicing the technique of pass blocking as there is practicing the weekly plays. Any offensive lineman that makes to the Div 1 level can be taught to zone block but not all OL can pass block and that's a fact. Why do you think great pass blocking OL are some of the top picks in the draft. You don't hear of an OL being drafted in top rounds because they are only great run blockers. Trust me it's unatural for a 300 pound plus OL to block and 250 pounds DE that runs a 4.6. I've seen guys who can run block there butt off, but on an island with DL on passing situation and they'll get beat most of the time.

You just made my argument. You played on the OL at SMU. Just kidding 91. I understand your point. But you also made mine. More time is spent pass blocking because teams throw the ball more and you can pass block these fast defensive lineman easier than you can run block them. Especially when your linemen (SMU) are astually 275lbs. QB in a shotgun, two step drop and throw. No time for a pass rush, unless you are SMU. Line up and try to run with the OL we have had? We better work of run blocking the entire practices. I wish we could zone block.

[mustang91]

Big Daddy I really thought you knew something about football? Offensive lineman are run blockers by nature. Pass blocking in unnatural and rarely perfected, if you noticed over the past 20 years our most successful QB's are the one's that can scramble. Example Ramone and Justin and as we all have seen Justin can run the ball. Sure he is not a pure option QB, but his ability to throw will only make the option more deadly. We don't have runningbacks you say? What is Martin, Mapps, Butler and the other redshirt freshman, I can't think of his name but heard good things about him? Johnson is not going to come in here and not use Justin's ability to throw the ball. I read yesterday on a link here on Ponyfans his quote saying if he had a QB that could throw his offensive would be even better.

No offense but I'll have to take Steve O's judgement on Johnson over yours and Stallions.

That is what you should do!

Offensive lineman zone block these days more than anything. It is not the same as firing off the ball like the old days. Defenses are too complicated. What did you say about pass blocking is unnatural? I won't even comment on that line of crap.

I am not worrying about JWill and how any coach will use him. JWill will do whatever is best for the team, corner, safety, RB. We better find a QB if/when we do move him. The team is my concern, as well as winning. We do not have a nuecleus of player to run the offense PJ is running now. If he can adapt, which I know he can, we are good to go. But run the option here, hell no!

I'm not going to argue with you but as a former offensevie lineman at SMU I know a little bit about run and pass blocking. That is my experience and I would be willing to bet the house if you talked to most offesive lineman they would agree. There is as much time practicing the technique of pass blocking as there is practicing the weekly plays. Any offensive lineman that makes to the Div 1 level can be taught to zone block but not all OL can pass block and that's a fact. Why do you think great pass blocking OL are some of the top picks in the draft. You don't hear of an OL being drafted in top rounds because they are only great run blockers. Trust me it's unatural for a 300 pound plus OL to block and 250 pounds DE that runs a 4.6. I've seen guys who can run block there butt off, but on an island with DL on passing situation and they'll get beat most of the time.

You just made my argument. You played on the OL at SMU. Just kidding 91. I understand your point. But you also made mine. More time is spent pass blocking because teams throw the ball more and you can pass block these fast defensive lineman easier than you can run block them. Especially when your linemen (SMU) are astually 275lbs. QB in a shotgun, two step drop and throw. No time for a pass rush, unless you are SMU. Line up and try to run with the OL we have had? We better work of run blocking the entire practices. I wish we could zone block.

Big D I respect your football knowledge, but think about it like this and I'll shut up after this post. On a weekly basis Johonson takes inferior athletes for example 275 OL and they kick the butt out of better Div 1 athletes. Being an academy school he also has probalby less talented RB's, QB's, and etc.. With those guys he has the #1 rushing offense the past two years and consistently beats credible Div 1 teams. That says a lot.