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Postby 03Mustang » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:51 pm

Well, all the games have been played now for the regular season...there shouldn't be anything stopping SMU from naming its coach Monday or Tuesday unless we just can't get anyone to come here.

Personally, I'm starting to lean toward the more negative view...all of the "rumors" have turned out to be total BS. This may be one of the toughest offseasons yet, and it's barely started....
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Re: Put up or Shut up time, Steve-O

Postby Roach » Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:57 pm

All we know is that Steve-O "prefers" (but has not said he requires) someone "with Div. I head coaching experience." Never has he said his candidate "has to be a D-I head coach now."

03Mustang wrote:Well, all the games have been played now for the regular season...there shouldn't be anything stopping SMU from naming its coach Monday or Tuesday unless we just can't get anyone to come here.
On the contrary, say Steve-O has someone in mind like Shula — has his Div. I experience, but even though the college regular season is over, he still has work to do until the Jaguars are eliminated from contention.

Not saying that's who it is, but it might explain — at least in part — the delay and/or silence.
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Re: Put up or Shut up time, Steve-O

Postby Hoop Fan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:00 pm

Roach wrote:All we know is that Steve-O "prefers" (but has not said he requires) someone "with Div. I head coaching experience." Never has he said his candidate "has to be a D-I head coach now."

03Mustang wrote:Well, all the games have been played now for the regular season...there shouldn't be anything stopping SMU from naming its coach Monday or Tuesday unless we just can't get anyone to come here.
On the contrary, say Steve-O has someone in mind like Shula — has his Div. I experience, but even though the college regular season is over, he still has work to do until the Jaguars are eliminated from contention.

Not saying that's who it is, but it might explain — at least in part — the delay and/or silence.


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Postby biggin » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:06 pm

The good news - I can't imagine anything has changed in the last day or so. I was told there are several balls in the air for Orsini. My guess at this point - he'll go with his best option this week...if...(and now for the bad news)...

Have I not told you in the beginning that there seemed to be a lack of interest in this job? No one wanted to believe me. Hopefully Orsini is able to coax one of the three names I was told were supposedly in the first tier now for Orsini- Johnson, Gill or Gailey. But again - it takes 2 to tango! I was very worried about the interest level all along.

I think its pretty clear - if not johnson its scraps from the table.
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Postby J.T.supporta » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:07 pm

Steve O's gonna PUT his foot UP yo [deleted] and make you SHUT UP!
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Postby PonyKai » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:09 pm

I respect the opinion, but there has been interest from a significant pool of candidates. Among those, the three mentioned may be the best fit for SMU right now, but to say there is no interest contradicts both my knowledge and my reasoned opinion. Whether that interest matriculates into a coach on the podium is something entirely different, and a whole nother ball game.
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Postby Hoop Fan » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:11 pm

Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:I respect the opinion, but there has been interest from a significant pool of candidates. Among those, the three mentioned may be the best fit for SMU right now, but to say there is no interest contradicts both my knowledge and my reasoned opinion. Whether that interest matriculates into a coach on the podium is something entirely different, and a whole nother ball game.


curious if you know why Barnett is not considered a good fit here?
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Postby PonyKai » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:12 pm

I don't, maybe he still is under consideration? Because my main opinion on Barnett is that if you hire someone less qualified for the job than Barnett, simply because he has a past, that is immediate grounds for rage and anger.

You hire the best man for the job and put in place measures to protect your school, your image, and the coach rehabilitating his image. Then you go and win some ball games.
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Postby Ponyx2 » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:14 pm

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Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:I respect the opinion, but there has been interest from a significant pool of candidates. Among those, the three mentioned may be the best fit for SMU right now, but to say there is no interest contradicts both my knowledge and my reasoned opinion. Whether that interest matriculates into a coach on the podium is something entirely different, and a whole nother ball game.


curious if you know why Barnett is not considered a good fit here?


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Postby 03Mustang » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:16 pm

biggin wrote: I think its pretty clear - if not johnson its scraps from the table.


I've thought Turner Gill would be a great choice from the beginning, and much more attainable than PJ. I'm just tired of not knowing and having every day that could be used to woo recruits pass us by.
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Postby J.T.supporta » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:16 pm

Ponyx2 wrote:
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Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:I respect the opinion, but there has been interest from a significant pool of candidates. Among those, the three mentioned may be the best fit for SMU right now, but to say there is no interest contradicts both my knowledge and my reasoned opinion. Whether that interest matriculates into a coach on the podium is something entirely different, and a whole nother ball game.


curious if you know why Barnett is not considered a good fit here?


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Postby Billy Joe » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:16 pm

What about Glen Mason? His name has not been mentioned much recently. I agree that it is time to put up or shut up. It is frustrating watching teams fire and hire coaches and we are doing nothing.....meanwhile the recruiting season is ticking away. It would have been great to fire Bennett early (like we did) and hire someone like a Barnett, Neuheisal, Bowden, etc. during the season to start recruiting. I just do not get it. I guess that is why I am not an AD.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:17 pm

we are making a tad too much out this WE MUST HAVE A DIVISION 1A FOOTBALL COACH WITH A PROVEN RECORD theory. Life goes on. I hope we get one too but its not necessarily doom and gloom if we don't. Rice found Todd Graham, UH found Briles, Tulsa found Graham again, Tulane found Bowden, TCU found Franchione when his resume wasn't that great then found Patterson, OU found Stoops, K-State found Prince, Missouri found Pinkel, Tech found Leach, Kansas found Mangiono. You know I could go on and on. What concerns me is that an AD must analyze the strengths and weaknesses to his program and pick the Coach with the correct skills. Then the school must support the Football program 100% Sorry had to get that off my chest-I'm seriously most concerned with building a Model which will allow SMU to compete-part of that was getting Orsini. Come on for once look past the Head Coach and look at what sells the Head Coach to come to a university. Start with Step 1 not Step 2.
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Postby Billy Joe » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:17 pm

To follow up, we all knew Bennett was gone after the way the team played the first three games of the season. Orsini has had all seaon to get his guy.
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Postby 03Mustang » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:21 pm

Billy Joe wrote:To follow up, we all knew Bennett was gone after the way the team played the first three games of the season. Orsini has had all seaon to get his guy.


We are going to know early this week if Orsini ever really "had his guy" all along. If we don't hear anything, then we are going to know that was total BS.

There is no excuse for not naming a coach this week. No excuse at all.
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