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Postby KnuckleStang » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:26 pm

03Mustang wrote:
Billy Joe wrote:To follow up, we all knew Bennett was gone after the way the team played the first three games of the season. Orsini has had all seaon to get his guy.


We are going to know early this week if Orsini ever really "had his guy" all along. If we don't hear anything, then we are going to know that was total BS.

There is no excuse for not naming a coach this week. No excuse at all.


Unless we are waiting to see what's left of the pool after the BCS schools get done with it, which is a distinct possibility.
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Postby 03Mustang » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:28 pm

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03Mustang wrote:
Billy Joe wrote:To follow up, we all knew Bennett was gone after the way the team played the first three games of the season. Orsini has had all seaon to get his guy.


We are going to know early this week if Orsini ever really "had his guy" all along. If we don't hear anything, then we are going to know that was total BS.

There is no excuse for not naming a coach this week. No excuse at all.


Unless we are waiting to see what's left of the pool after the BCS schools get done with it, which is a distinct possibility.


I really hope our All-Star AD isn't waiting for table scraps from the big boys...if so, what's the point in even trying? Let's just go D-III and quit trying if that's our new strategy.
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Postby biggin » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:36 pm

03Mustang wrote:
KnuckleStang wrote:
03Mustang wrote:
Billy Joe wrote:To follow up, we all knew Bennett was gone after the way the team played the first three games of the season. Orsini has had all seaon to get his guy.


We are going to know early this week if Orsini ever really "had his guy" all along. If we don't hear anything, then we are going to know that was total BS.

There is no excuse for not naming a coach this week. No excuse at all.


Unless we are waiting to see what's left of the pool after the BCS schools get done with it, which is a distinct possibility.


I really hope our All-Star AD isn't waiting for table scraps from the big boys...if so, what's the point in even trying? Let's just go D-III and quit trying if that's our new strategy.


Not a strategy - just reality. No one wants this job. You dig?
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Postby OC Mustang » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:46 pm

Nah...there are folks that want this job...Stallion's point about wanting a proven record, however, looks more dead-on by the minute.

I've said over and over...it isn't Orsini. They guy likes his career; he isn't going to do something to jeopardize it. However, he appears to understand the political (small 'p') and diplomatic concerns his this job vis-a-vis Turner and the Board of Trustees.

This is a Turner deal; we shall see how much of a stamp on it Orsini if he stays at SMU and doesn't bolt for greener pastures sooner than later (we all know he will bolt...but the sooner than later part is my bellweather on this).

Again, Kate's article said that at press, the search committee had met formally only once. That tells me that there are no interviews to date. No interviews, likely no hire.

But I could be wrong, of course. The search committee could simply be a smoke screen for behind the scenes...but they would still have the candidates meet with the search committee.... And so far, it appears that SMU hasn't done that yet.
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Postby 03Mustang » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:47 pm

biggin wrote: Not a strategy - just reality. No one wants this job. You dig?


Unfortunately, I think there is probably something to that. I didn't want to believe you before, but I'm afraid you may be right.
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Postby PonyKai » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:49 pm

This is Orsini's call. And we have Orsini's employment for a limited time. He will not retire here at SMU.
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Postby mrydel » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:49 pm

The search committees only job wil be to welcome the new coach as they vote to approve him.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:50 pm

OC Mustang-based on my years of experience following SMU and most all universities those search committees are merely figureheads.
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Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:12 pm

re: "No one wants this job. You dig?"

More non-sense!
Yeah only a guy that has won the Pac 10 Title, won the Rose Bowl,
won the Cotton Bowl, and finished #3 in the country in the final polls
said he was interested in the SMU job this past week.


Neuheisel interested in SMU job

Wednesday, November 28, 2007
By KATE HAIROPOULOS / The Dallas Morning News
[email protected]

Rick Neuheisel said Wednesday he had been contacted indirectly
about the open SMU football coaching job.

The Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator and former Colorado
and Washington head coach said he would be interested in
the position.


"It's a diamond in the rough," Neuheisel said of SMU.

Neuheisel said he missed college football and would be interested
in the right opportunity, but he wasn't bent on leaving the NFL.

Neuheisel was fired from Washington for participating in an
off-campus NCAA basketball tournament pool. He later received
a $4.5 million settlement from the university and the NCAA,
which essentially cleared him of wrongdoing.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/colleges/smu/stories/112907dnsposmushort.20574b8.html
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Postby perunapower » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:17 pm

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According to these hens, there is a low risk of the Steve-O failing any time soon.

Some of you need to relax.
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Postby Ponymon » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:20 pm

Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:This is Orsini's call. And we have Orsini's employment for a limited time. He will not retire here at SMU.


He is a young guy and could be with us for several years before going to greener pastures. A lot depends upon his ability to change the "model", raise money, raise the profile for the school, his family, etc. One things for sure, he likes Dallas or he never would have left Florida. He likes living in the Park Cities and sending his kids to Highland Park schools. He is getting to know some of the wealthiest people in the nation, which can't hurt his ability to make extra income from sources not available to most people. If SMU can spend top money for a coach, I feel confident that they can raise the money to keep the athletic director happy at least for the next 4 or 5 years. :wink:
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Postby PK » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:31 pm

03Mustang wrote:
Billy Joe wrote:To follow up, we all knew Bennett was gone after the way the team played the first three games of the season. Orsini has had all seaon to get his guy.


We are going to know early this week if Orsini ever really "had his guy" all along. If we don't hear anything, then we are going to know that was total BS.

There is no excuse for not naming a coach this week. No excuse at all.
Well, before you and everyone else gets their panties in a wad, Orsini never said he has had his man all along. Orsini has never said this hire will be a WOW. What he has said is that he will get the best available coach in America...interpret "available" anyway you want to. We have let these rumors define what Orsini is doing and then blame him when they turn out to not be true. Blame the rumor mongers.

I truely cannot see a BCS coach leaving his job voluntarily to come coach SMU. A fired or semi-retired BCS coach who needs a place to start his climb back up, yes. An up and comer, yes, but I don't think we win a bidding game with any BCS school for that up and comer. Although, Terry Bowden has been out of coaching for 9 years or so, he does have name recognition, and actually could probably still do a great job coaching.

If Turner is interfering with this hire, then we are in more trouble than I thought and I am surprised if Orsini is putting up with it, because ultimately he will have the resposibility for the hire and as such should be free to hire as he sees fit...or resign and tell Turner to hire who ever he likes.
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Postby jtstang » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:39 pm

PK wrote: What he has said is that he will get the best available coach in America...interpret "available" anyway you want to.

Actually "best" is subject to more interpretation than "available," I think, as in "best that meets our strict moral code."
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Postby RGV Pony » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:43 pm

jtstang wrote:
PK wrote: What he has said is that he will get the best available coach in America...interpret "available" anyway you want to.

Actually "best" is subject to more interpretation than "available," I think, as in "best that meets our strict moral code."


so does the job announcement leave out the part that SMU is an EOE?
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Postby PK » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:47 pm

jtstang wrote:
PK wrote: What he has said is that he will get the best available coach in America...interpret "available" anyway you want to.

Actually "best" is subject to more interpretation than "available," I think, as in "best that meets our strict moral code."
You could be right jt, but if Turner is the one defining that "moral code"....let's just say I've always been suspect of people his age wearing heavy gold chains around their necks with or without medals attached.
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