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Postby cs09viking » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:12 pm

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Pony94 wrote:Navy a recruiting advantage?? I just don't see it. Please look at the steps one must take to enter the Naval Academy, in particular a nomination from an official source. This step severaly limits the pool from which athletes can be recruited...

http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/steps4.htm


The advantage of recruiting is, once you start the process of being recruited by one of the academies you are pretty much off limits to the rest of the world. Most schools will not try and touch you if you get as far as some do in the process of entering an academy school, whether prep or college.


and how do you know that? you are just pulling that out of your [deleted]$.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:14 pm

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Pony94 wrote:Navy a recruiting advantage?? I just don't see it. Please look at the steps one must take to enter the Naval Academy, in particular a nomination from an official source. This step severaly limits the pool from which athletes can be recruited...

http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/steps4.htm


The advantage of recruiting is, once you start the process of being recruited by one of the academies you are pretty much off limits to the rest of the world. Most schools will not try and touch you if you get as far as some do in the process of entering an academy school, whether prep or college.


As somebody that worked for a Congressman and helped oversee the Academy Nomination process for him, I can tell you that a recruited athlete doesn't need a nomination.
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:38 pm

cs09viking wrote:
bigdaddy08091 wrote:
Pony94 wrote:Navy a recruiting advantage?? I just don't see it. Please look at the steps one must take to enter the Naval Academy, in particular a nomination from an official source. This step severaly limits the pool from which athletes can be recruited...

http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/steps4.htm


The advantage of recruiting is, once you start the process of being recruited by one of the academies you are pretty much off limits to the rest of the world. Most schools will not try and touch you if you get as far as some do in the process of entering an academy school, whether prep or college.


and how do you know that? you are just pulling that out of your [deleted]$.


Other than cussing me Navy boy, give me some evidence to dispute what I am saying?
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:41 pm

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bigdaddy08091 wrote:
Pony94 wrote:Navy a recruiting advantage?? I just don't see it. Please look at the steps one must take to enter the Naval Academy, in particular a nomination from an official source. This step severaly limits the pool from which athletes can be recruited...

http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/steps4.htm


The advantage of recruiting is, once you start the process of being recruited by one of the academies you are pretty much off limits to the rest of the world. Most schools will not try and touch you if you get as far as some do in the process of entering an academy school, whether prep or college.


As somebody that worked for a Congressman and helped oversee the Academy Nomination process for him, I can tell you that a recruited athlete doesn't need a nomination.


Well, I stated it wrong. Once the student athlete begins the process of entering one of the academies, college recruiters will not try to touch them. Recruiters believe if the student has that kind of conviction to go to school and possibly war, they are a waste of time to try and recruit!
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:43 pm

I was responding really more to pony94, not you. Did not mean to confuse you
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Postby cs09viking » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:45 pm

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cs09viking wrote:
bigdaddy08091 wrote:
Pony94 wrote:Navy a recruiting advantage?? I just don't see it. Please look at the steps one must take to enter the Naval Academy, in particular a nomination from an official source. This step severaly limits the pool from which athletes can be recruited...

http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/steps4.htm


The advantage of recruiting is, once you start the process of being recruited by one of the academies you are pretty much off limits to the rest of the world. Most schools will not try and touch you if you get as far as some do in the process of entering an academy school, whether prep or college.


and how do you know that? you are just pulling that out of your [deleted]$.


Other than cussing me Navy boy, give me some evidence to dispute what I am saying?


so u answer a question with a question?
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Postby bigdaddy08091 » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:47 pm

cs09viking wrote:
bigdaddy08091 wrote:
cs09viking wrote:
bigdaddy08091 wrote:
Pony94 wrote:Navy a recruiting advantage?? I just don't see it. Please look at the steps one must take to enter the Naval Academy, in particular a nomination from an official source. This step severaly limits the pool from which athletes can be recruited...

http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/steps4.htm


The advantage of recruiting is, once you start the process of being recruited by one of the academies you are pretty much off limits to the rest of the world. Most schools will not try and touch you if you get as far as some do in the process of entering an academy school, whether prep or college.


and how do you know that? you are just pulling that out of your [deleted]$.


Other than cussing me Navy boy, give me some evidence to dispute what I am saying?


so u answer a question with a question?


Well, I stated it wrong. Once the student athlete begins the process of entering one of the academies, college recruiters will not try to touch them. Recruiters believe if the student has that kind of conviction to go to school and possibly war, they are a waste of time to try and recruit!
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Postby EastStang » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:16 am

Army has a prep school, too and they've really stunk for about 11 years. A prep or feeder school system only goes so far. And quite frankly, how many 3 and 4 star players came through the academy prep system and ever started a game for the Academy. I'll bet very few. Again, they are basically the same calibre of athlete that we get and maybe worse. 3 and 4 star players have lots of choices. Zero, one and two star player have few choices. The fact is that if we find the same calibre of player that we are getting now, Johnson has proven that he can win with that calibre of player at the Division 1 level. That's the kind of coach we need. A good friend of mine is an Army grad. He was venting to me yesterday that Army has stunk since they gave up the veer offense and went to a pro-style offense. Navy and to a less extent Air Force have stuck with a form of the triple option. I think Johnson has the experience to mix and match his offense to the talent he has. If he has no running backs, and a great passer and receivers, I suspect, he can shift to a passing offense pretty readily. My one concern is that Navy was as bad as we were this year on defense. We were in the top half of the schools in offensive stats this year, but near the bottom on defense. That is where we lost games this year.
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Postby cs09viking » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:27 am

EastStang wrote:Army has a prep school, too and they've really stunk for about 11 years. A prep or feeder school system only goes so far. And quite frankly, how many 3 and 4 star players came through the academy prep system and ever started a game for the Academy. I'll bet very few. Again, they are basically the same calibre of athlete that we get and maybe worse. 3 and 4 star players have lots of choices. Zero, one and two star player have few choices. The fact is that if we find the same calibre of player that we are getting now, Johnson has proven that he can win with that calibre of player at the Division 1 level. That's the kind of coach we need. A good friend of mine is an Army grad. He was venting to me yesterday that Army has stunk since they gave up the veer offense and went to a pro-style offense. Navy and to a less extent Air Force have stuck with a form of the triple option. I think Johnson has the experience to mix and match his offense to the talent he has. If he has no running backs, and a great passer and receivers, I suspect, he can shift to a passing offense pretty readily. My one concern is that Navy was as bad as we were this year on defense. We were in the top half of the schools in offensive stats this year, but near the bottom on defense. That is where we lost games this year.


johnson was disappointed last year because more than half of the football recruits the entered navy prep school didn't finish the prep school year. the SA training model means that football comes third to academics and military obligations.

the number of football players leaving in SA prep year and SA freshman year are staggering.
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Postby smuwins » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:06 pm

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bigdaddy08091 wrote:
Pony94 wrote:Navy a recruiting advantage?? I just don't see it. Please look at the steps one must take to enter the Naval Academy, in particular a nomination from an official source. This step severaly limits the pool from which athletes can be recruited...

http://www.usna.edu/Admissions/steps4.htm


The advantage of recruiting is, once you start the process of being recruited by one of the academies you are pretty much off limits to the rest of the world. Most schools will not try and touch you if you get as far as some do in the process of entering an academy school, whether prep or college.


As somebody that worked for a Congressman and helped oversee the Academy Nomination process for him, I can tell you that a recruited athlete doesn't need a nomination.



As someone who also worked for a Congressman recently , I can tell you that the Congressman I worked for looked at football recruits the same as anyone else applying. He had a 10 person board who reviews every application for service academies and helps decide who he nominates. The only advantage that a fb player had is that Roger Staubach was one of the 10 people on his Academy board.
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