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Postby Nacho » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:57 pm

So now after 20 years SMU wants to get back in the football business. Heartening to know that I was just wasting my time for these last 20 years. I wish someone had told me before now.

Now that we are back in the football business. I find it amusing that we are having to crawl on our hands and knees to get a coach. I guess that 's what 20 years of neglect gets you.

Duke or SMU? Now there's a tossup if I ever saw one. How can you lose?

Personally I don't care who the next coach is. And I don't care how much baggage he has either. 20 years of neglect--that's baggage.
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Postby Stallion » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:58 pm

I did
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Postby Billy Joe » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:01 pm

Keeping a coach around here (and acutally extending his contract) after a winless season should have told you SMU was not in the football business.
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Postby Nacho » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:06 pm

If SMU really wants to get back in the "business" they should offer PJ $3 million/year. Raise the bar. Any coach in America will come here for the right amount of dough. If they lose him because of money then we are not really back in 'business."
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Postby Pony^ » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:09 pm

Nacho wrote:If SMU really wants to get back in the "business" they should offer PJ $3 million/year. Raise the bar. Any coach in America will come here for the right amount of dough. If they lose him because of money then we are not really back in 'business."


SMU is already #5 on the cost per win chart ($517,857):

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... -pay_N.htm
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Re: Back in the "Football Business"

Postby Bergermeister » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:12 pm

Nacho wrote:So now after 20 years SMU wants to get back in the football business. Heartening to know that I was just wasting my time for these last 20 years. I wish someone had told me before now.

Now that we are back in the football business. I find it amusing that we are having to crawl on our hands and knees to get a coach. I guess that 's what 20 years of neglect gets you.

Duke or SMU? Now there's a tossup if I ever saw one. How can you lose?

Personally I don't care who the next coach is. And I don't care how much baggage he has either. 20 years of neglect--that's baggage.

That was very inspirational. Now, what about today?
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Postby Nacho » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:20 pm

I got my $500ks worth.

Orsini is on record as saying, You get what you pay for. We'll soon see who pays up and who doesn't.

Other than PJ and Mason every former HC out there has baggage as far as I can tell. If PJ falls through we are probably on to Mason or an assistant imho.
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Postby The_RichAlum » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:20 pm

Nacho wrote:If SMU really wants to get back in the "business" they should offer PJ $3 million/year. Raise the bar. Any coach in America will come here for the right amount of dough. If they lose him because of money then we are not really back in 'business."


Whether it is $2M or $3M, it is a negative ROI or poor investment until SMU is committed to bringing in top talent. Will a new coach generate more revenue for the school under current conditions, admissions, courses offered, etc..? Even if we go 8-4, will that improve revenue generation by all that much and could we go 8-4 with another coach we didn't have to pay as much?

I don't think a high profile coach is the answer to this equation. There is no guarentee that Johnson or any other coach can take the level of talent we have and turn them into winners.

I would just as soon higher a good coordinator from a reputable program. Johnson or anyone else will use this as a stepping stone to a bigger and better deal. There is always someone willing to offer more.
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Postby Lawgrad » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:31 pm

Nacho wrote:I got my $500ks worth.

Orsini is on record as saying, You get what you pay for. We'll soon see who pays up and who doesn't.

Other than PJ and Mason every former HC out there has baggage as far as I can tell. If PJ falls through we are probably on to Mason or an assistant imho.


Ask most KU fans if Mason has baggage. The hatchet job he did on them when he left was awful, and severely hampered their recruiting for awhile. He took the UGA job, then declined it a couple of days later, and agreed to come back to KU. He then did absolutely no recruiting during the following year, and left for Minnesota as soon as the opportunity presented itself. In addition to the leaving the pantry bare, it dumped the carcass of Terry Allen on the Jayhawks as the new head coach.
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Postby mr. pony » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:33 pm

Nacho wrote:If SMU really wants to get back in the "business" they should offer PJ $3 million/year. Raise the bar. Any coach in America will come here for the right amount of dough. If they lose him because of money then we are not really back in 'business."


I totally agree. Blow it out.
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