Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

[mattfair]

You guys are still missing the point. Bill Parcells has inherited Dave Campo's cast offs and has the Cowboys 5-2. Does anyone agree Parcells can coach??

Bennett has brought in the #5 recruiting class in the WAC in 2002 per Bobby Burton of Rivals.com and the #1 recruiting class in the WAC in 2003 per Bobby Burton of Rivals.com Yes, these kids need to mature from RS FR and True FR, but some are being forced to play, but the COACHING is getting in the way of their talent...

The man has brought in talent and he is being forced to play the young talent. I am just wanting you to see the forest for the trees that Bennett is unable to HEAD coach! One of the biggest things last year was how our defense slipped from the year before, since Bennett got rid of Cavan's DC to install his own defense. Man, don't fix what ain't broken. Parcells kept Zimmer around and the Cowboys are #1 in defense in the NFL. NOW I REALIZE THE MUSTANGS ARE NOT THE COWBOYS, but can you fellas see the PARALLELS I am trying to draw?? After the Navy game Bennett blamed himself for the debacle of not having the defense in the right positions to succeed. I said, okay, first game jitters and all, even though NAVY (on a huge losing streak) DESTROYED us and of course we had some very poorly inexperienced QBs. I mean, i could see Wallis couldn't QB by the second or third game and figured Bartel was probably a better GAME DAY QB than practice QB, which he proved last year, but regressed this year.

I have nothing against Bennett, he's nice has good kids, says all the right things, but unfortunately in the 20 games he has coached, he is proving to be more CAMPO like than Parcells like...

Yes, removing him would cost money and WHO would you hire to replace him....But, with 4 games this year and 11 games next year (before C-USA play begins) i hope he can flip flop the Wins and Losses so that I AM WRONG, but I don't think so. The OC should be relieved of his duties or some other assistants then? Or we give everyone a 3rd year to prove some of the disbelievers wrong??

[McAndless]

I'm not calling for Phil Bennett's job Hoop Fan! I'm simply stating that his coaching style sucks. Give him time to recruit and bring in Bobby Burton's most incredible class the WAC has ever seen, the point remains, he is not head coach material and I will never back away from that statement.

And if/when he does start winning, I will be grateful, but I will also know it was the difference of players, nothing to do with schemes or coaching.

[Hoop Fan]

McAndless, I have already pointed out a kid who "would actually want to put their everything in for and play for the ol gipper": Dat Nygen. I'm sure there are many others, including guys on this team. I have played competitive team sports myself and the coach can't give a gipper speech every week. Maybe Bennetts tried that and its not been enough. Players need to create that spark for themselves everytime they walk onto the field. Its a copout to wait for the coach to motivate 85 guys. The team looked pretty motivated and together in the Baylor game, when the season was fresh and we had a chance to win. Losing makes everything stale and you can't dismiss the talent factor as a reality of why we have lost games badly and gotten discouraged.

[PK]

Originally posted by EdWiz:
Im not saying that Cavan was a great coach, but at least when he was here SMU scored touchdowns and actually won a few games and competed in most of the others.

We have been competitive with our peers. We were competitive with Nevada, Baylor, UTEP and Tulsa where two busted plays lead to two touchdowns for Tulsa. We were not with Tech, OSU and Boise who went on to lay 77 points on SJSU. I seriously doubt that Nevada, Baylor, UTEP or even Tulsa would be much more of a challenge to Tech and OSU than we were. Even Texas A&M was less than competitive with OSU and that's with the great Coach Fran at the helm. Yeah, we want to be competitive with the Techs and OSU's out there, but we aren't there yet. You may not have noticed, but (among other things) we have had some slight difficulties with our QB's. So let's get real here and understand this isn't going to change over night.

[FloridaMustang]

Cavan had solid play from the QB position.

[EdWiz]

PK, My point is They still found a way to win a few games at least. Anyone in their right mind would rather win a few than none at all. You have to be sure that understand me, im not saying that Cavan was a great coach, but for all the people that are dogging him, they need to understand that Bennet's performance is sub-par to Cavan's thus far. All i see is guy saying that he will win right away (he did say it), not backing his talk up. I understand that a new coach has to have confidence and get the fans to put faith in him, but when you make a statement like that and put up performances like he has, it makes you look like a joke. Im sure Dat does have respect for bennet, but i didnt know that Bennet was the head coach of A&M at that time. Like i said in an earlier statement, just b/c you are a good DC doesn't make you a great team manager and head coach

[EdWiz]

PK, one more thing that i just noticed. Do you really believe that we put a better fight with OSU than did A&M. What game did you watch. we arent talking about your performance on NCAA '04. OSU could have literally put 70+ on the board. OSU is a very dominating team, im not denying that, just dont try to make points with arguments that arent even close to being justifiable

[EastStang]

Just to recap. McAndless doesn't want to fire Bennett, he just doesn't think he can coach. Keller wants to fire Bennett and wants to hire Bill Parcells or someone like him. McAnddless thinks that Bennett's gruff coaching style is bad. Bill Parcells after a big victory was quated on the news as saying "Our players are not getting it." Bill Parcells is a notorious butt kicker. Frank Beamer grabs face masks. As I have said, the jury is still out on Bennett's coaching ability. He could be like the UT coach or like Pat Sullivan was at TCU, great recruiter but can't coach. But firing him now will only put us further behind in catching up with the other teams. Hoop fan is right, we could be 4-4 right now and if we were, you'd all be calling Bennett a genius. Did Bennett fumble on the one yard line with the game on the line? No. Did Bennett blow deep coverage twice by not hearing the play called? No. Did Bennett stick too long with Bartel and Wallis? Probably, but if he hadn't you'd be accusing him of running off quarterbacks. Even now, he seems torn between Wallis (who has played but can't seem to win) and Phillips (who is a true freshman but is very raw). His gut is probably telling him that he has a better chance to win with Wallis, but he'd like to develop Phillips, but to do that probably means another loss. This is a young team and it is prone to mistakes. Lastly, Bill Parcells already is a Hall of Fame coach, none of those guys wanted to come to SMU two years ago,and Jerry Jones wasn't waiving $5 Million checks around to hire a coach at SMU. So, don't compare apples and oranges. Tulsa had some talent and it took a coaching change to bring that out, or they were more mature now and ready. We don't know do we? Yet we beat them all day, but lost on two fluke plays. Buhbye.

<small>[ 10-30-2003, 09:58 AM: Message edited by: EastStang ]</small>

[EdWiz]

That little Buhbye thing, that is pretty cute. What is like a little something to put at the end b/c you think you just shut everyone up with good a few rebuttals. This is where you lack the knowledge of a coach. You probably think that what makes a good coach is play calling, or something along those lines. In case you didnt know Good coaches install players with a desire to not F%$* up like that. Yeah they cant do anything about it after it happens and yes mistakes do happen, but with the game on line a good coach will have trained and installed a mentality that would never ever choke in a situation like you are talking about

[EdWiz]

and tulsa's talent is no better than what we have,,and dont give me the JUCO crap. and they are winning and competing

[Stallion]

...if we could just get a coach "to teach these kids fundamentals" and "motivate the boys"...7th Version.

<small>[ 10-30-2003, 10:20 AM: Message edited by: Stallion ]</small>

[abezontar]

Wait....Edwhiz...so you are saying that the guys Bennett puts into the game want to screw it up? Wow....I don't think there is a single guy on that team that wants to F*@k up as you put it. I would bet that every guy out there wants to win, and wants to win every game. By your reasoning there is no good coach in the world. There hasn't been a single coach that hasn't had a kid choke in some game some where.

<small>[ 10-30-2003, 10:43 AM: Message edited by: abezontar ]</small>

[PK]

Originally posted by EdWiz:
PK, one more thing that i just noticed. Do you really believe that we put a better fight with OSU than did A&M. What game did you watch.

Reading comprehension is an important talent to have...exactly where did I say we put up a better fight with OSU than the aggies? What I said is "Even Texas A&M was less THAN competitive with OSU and that's with the great Coach Fran at the helm." Don't read so fast that you miss some of the words.

[Eddie P]

Can we please stop using Bill Parcell/Dallas Cowboys as any type of justification for anything said in this particular stupid thread. Goodness, there isn't a scrap of anything relevant between our situation and the Cowboys...so give it a rest please.

<small>[ 10-30-2003, 10:58 AM: Message edited by: Eddie P ]</small>

[Nacho]

I hate to get invloved in this thread. Who knows what former post will be brought up. I can't imagine what this board will be like if we go 0-9 this Saturday. I thought you guys were Sunshiners. Don't take everyting so seriously.