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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby EdWiz » Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:04 pm

abezontar, you totally missed the boat.
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby EastStang » Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:18 pm

Ed, your theory is that Bennett is a bad coach because they players aren't afraid to make mistakes, McAndless (who claims to know a lot about coaching) says they make mistakes because they're afraid to screw up. Which is it? My view is that we have a bunch of young players and they're gonna mess up either from trying too hard (eg. Rushbrook's fumble in the Nevada game), or from being inexperienced, or not very good to begin with, or exhausion (Baylor), or nerves. McAndless believes its all nerves. You believe it's because they don't care and aren't motivated to win. It can be both, you know. It depends on the player doesn't it.
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby abezontar » Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:01 pm

Originally posted by EdWiz:
In case you didnt know Good coaches install players with a desire to not F%$* up like that.
Please explain what you mean then if you aren't saying that the players Bennett puts on the field desire to f%$* up.
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby Hoop Fan » Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:13 pm

I love the argument that says Bennett is a horrible coach, but he is not advocating firing him. What the f(%*^%%&^%@@????????????????? Unless you wanted to see a guy fail in the long run or be fired now, why say that crap? Its childish.
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby EdWiz » Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:56 pm

i was simply trying to explain that good coaches get the very most out of the players that he has on his team, and yes they do have mental busts, but at the most critical point in the game good coaches make sure their players arent losing b/c of mental busts. if you lose it should be b/c you just flat out got beat, not that you didnt hear a coverage. and yes that is partly the players fault but trust me it has a lot to do with how prepared a kid is, and that is part of the coaches job.
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby PK » Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:01 pm

Trust you????? We don't even know who you are or what your qualifications are for making your grand statements about what coaches should and should not be doing. Trust you???...get real.
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby EdWiz » Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:31 pm

PK im not taking to you, and yeah im qualified,,i dont know who you are and you dont need to know who i am
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby abezontar » Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:41 pm

How do you know he isn't getting the very best out of this team? Maybe with the unlucky breaks we have had this year this is the best that these guys can do. Maybe that even though they are decent players there have just been too many "bad bounces" for this team to overcome. Sometimes no matter what the coach or the players do, no matter how prepared they are things just don't seem to work out. Now I'm NOT saying that this should be the excuse for continued poor performance, but to say that Bennett should be fired during the middle of his second season is asinine. I've said this before and I will again, as I am sure many others will as well, if you fire Bennett now you doom SMU to continued sup-par performance for a long time. No coach will come into a situation where they know they will not have ample time to clean up the mess that is there. Firing Bennett would send the message that we are not patient enough to allow someone a chance to improve the program, either win now or get lost. That is the kind of attitude that will put us back in the situation we were in 1987, and probably send us through another 15 years of a Kenneth Pye typ model.
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby Corby » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:37 pm

Maybe my SMU education was worthless, but I don't recall McAndless (who actually happens to know quite a bit about coaching) saying players lose because of nerves. I think he was pointing to the fact that the players lose because this coach has lost this team, and when you put a team through a completely monotnous schedule with zero results, how then do you put faith in it any longer? EdWiz, McAndless, my only advice is to get off these boards and discuss something you seem to know quite a bit about elsewhere, because you're [deleted] in the wind with these geniuses. And I'll take up for McAndless one more time, he's stating that it would be ridiculous to fire Bennett after only two years, (financially) and leave us with what? Just let him finish out a miserable record and those of us getting reamed on this board were morons in the first place? Let this pathetic thread die.
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby Mike Damone » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:42 pm

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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby FloridaMustang » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:57 pm

Corby, EdWiz, McAndless - who in the hell are you people with your insider knowledge and 14 posts.

Someday soon, please, please re-evaluate your lives and try to consider the VERY remote possibility that you're not as smart as you think and that you give yourselves just, i dno, a LITTLE too much credit?

i dno, maybe i'm reachin here.

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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby Mike Damone » Thu Oct 30, 2003 6:10 pm

They know all the players and know that things are completely out of control.

Did anybody see the Daily Campus today. There was an article about the Bartel situation. Bartel took all the blame. Once again I was impressed with his ability to swallow his pride. I have more respect for him now than I did when he was on the team. Anyway, in the article there was an unnamed player that whined about Bennett starting to play "his" guys instead of "Cavan's" guys. I think the "insiders" represent this guy's feelings. Maybe not EdWiz as he told me that wasn't his priority and I'll believe that.
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby EastStang » Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:47 am

Let's see he's 3-17 with Cavan's players. It's about time he moved on.
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby EdWiz » Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:22 am

Florida, while attending SMU and dominating the academics as well as playing ball, i failed to learn the all important fact that you can base how much we know on the number of posts that we have made. Im with McAndless and the post he made earlier, if you are who he thinks you are, why dont you come over and pick up my jock as well. I guess you are a football prodigy since you have 12?? posts,,all that tells me is that you have a little too much time on your hands, and we will never reevaluate our lives on account of your suggestion, because i can assure you need to take your 1200 and change posts and go reevaluate your pathetic so called life
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Re: Phil Bennett and Staff can't coach, must GO!

Postby EdWiz » Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:29 am

Mikey,,i really dont care who plays, i think the best should play and that is it. whether it be Cavans guys or Bennets guys. I would like to see them win a game. I only took up for Bisch. b/c i firmly believe he is one of the best if not the best LB on the team. Senior or not he should play, and i dont think that you disagree with that. Starting Bisch, but allowing younger guys to get some playing time and experience. Nothing wrong with that.
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