play #7.

[Hoop Fan]

I'll go on record as saying that like everybody else, I have no damn clue why Wallis played so much. It made no sense and was painful to watch. I also couldn't understand the two point conversion call, which was doomed from the start because of confusion. I've been trying to support Bennett, but he made it extremely hard today. I thought the offensive line played brutally bad today which is the only conceivable reason not to play Phillips more. Even so, if thats the reason then should have never taken his redshirt off to begin with. The misery continues.

[i10pony]

And the misery will continue for 2 to 3 years. Then SMU wil push the reset button again and we will attempt rebuild again but it will be to late. Because SMU will not be playing D1a football anymore.

[Nacho]

The chart says to go for a 2 point conversion if you are behind by 2, 5, 9, 11, 12 or 16.

I don't know who came up with that chart. Not making it put us behind by 9, which means that we would have to score a TD and a FG with time running out. Personally I would have gone with the one pointer there and then tried to tie it with a 2 pointer at the end. It's a debatable point. Bennett went by the book but sometimes you have to look at the situation and go by what is staring you in the face. Yes, making it would have left us 7 down but not making it made it almost impossible to win.

[Hoop Fan]

you summed it up Nacho. The book might have also said to punt on 4th and 12 from the 50 with 6 minutes left. Not with our offense. It was inconceivable that we would punt hold them on downs and score twice in 6 minutes. A guy I was at the game with disagreed saying Wallis had no chance whatsover of making a 12 yard play and that you have to hope your defense could cause a turnover. I see his point, but if the offense wasn't likely to make a 12 yard play, how feasible was it that they would score twice in 6 minutes? Having said all that, I just don't think game decisions and motivation are our primary problems. The team played hard in the first half, its just not there.

[sam]

Nacho and Hoop Fan, it is painfully obvious that neither of you know what ya'll are talking about and your posts only prove you have little knowledge of the game. So I will suggest to you to just keep coming to the game and watch but don't post anything unless it pretains to anything except your blind devotion to bennett.
Nacho for your information bennett should have gone for one after the first TD that is what the book says and that is what a good coach would have done...But bennett went for two. Now if you want to dispute this than I will continue to show your ignorance on the fine art of Coaching 101

[Nacho]

HF I sense your frustration. The punt was another difficult decision. That's why he gets the big bucks. I probaly would have punted also. The odds of us making that long 4th down conversion are incredibly small.

I will agree with Stallion that we don't have the overall talent of even this mediocre Fresno team.

Bennett is going to be here next year as far as I can tell.

I'm not a Polyanna by any means but with these young WRs, Massey and Phillips I think there is some reason for hope on offense although the O-line was and has been pourous. The D was okay today. We are a work in progress. If we go out to La Tech and get blown out then I may not be so sanguine.

[Hoop Fan]

Yo Sam, I may need a class in Coaching 101, but you oughtta try a remedial reading class. Both of us were clearly saying that Bennett should have gone for 1 instead of 2. I personally don't give a damn what the book says. Let me clue you in, that point and the cricism of the punt with 6 mins left is hardly blind devotion of Bennett. Fire him if you want but that will probably make it worse. Now tell us genius how it is.

[Nacho]

Sam, if you have a link to a 2 point conversion chart I would love to see you post it because you are wrong.

The book also says go for 2 if you are ahead by 1, 4, 5, 12, 15, or 19

Behind by 1 or 4--judgement call.

I'll be waiting on your link.

[Hoop Fan]

Sam, while you're at it, remind us what your personal relationship to one of the offensive linemen is. I think thats what got your ire up.

[sam]

To start with I have no relationshipship with anyone,second genius the chart you refer to 2 5 9 etc refers to before you score.
We were down by 15,when we scored if we kicked we are down by 1 TD and have time to PLAN a two point play not run the offense out there we 8 seconds left. That's Coaching 101.
Third you can log on to The Coaching Network and they can help you out with the finer points of the game.
Peruna bear me to a link, but its the same chart. End of session.
That Hoopie is "How it is" and Nacho I am not wrong!

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[Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex]

http://www.nfl.com/fans/twopointconv.html

[LA_Mustang]

I believe most coaches would kick the extra point on the first TD. Then go for two on the next TD. Its really just common sense. Of course there can always be circumstances that might change that decision. I guess only Bennett knows why he went for 2, and we will probably never know because only about 50 people care.

[Nacho]

Sam, you should let go of that shovel. That hole you are digging is getting deeper and deeper. See that chart that was linked. Those are points after the TD. Let me go slowly for you. We scored 6. That left us 9 down. The chart says go for 2. That's what Bennett did. As the paragraphs above the chart indicate this is sometimes still a judgement call depending upon the situation of the game. In our situation HF and I indicated that going for one was the proper thing to do. Bennett was wrong in our opinion. Sam as I stated previously you are wrong. I was wrong once. I know what it feels like. When you come on here calling people names and trying to bully them you better be right otherwise you look kind of silly. Sam, right now you look a little silly. That's okay. I really hope you aren't a coach. Good night.

[sam]

Are you blind,go to the chart--look in the right column that is titled TRAIL BY-- go down to the fifteenth line that says down by 15-- look to the right-- GO FOR 1. But it also says that every coach carries this chart with them.
I know now you're wrong twice and in the same thread.Bye

[Nacho]

Sam, Sam, Sam the chart is for deciding what to do AFTER a TD is scored. You are obviously incapable of understanding simple logic. Put the shovel down.