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Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby Hoop Fan » Sun Nov 02, 2003 3:57 pm

3 turnovers and a slew of penalties in the first quarter. How does the fire the coach crowd explain that? I've heard it a thousand times on here that adequately coached football teams do not make mistakes like those.
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby Big Cat » Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:40 pm

You are reaching a little bit. I think the point is that well coached teams do not turn the ball over often(on a regular basis). Turnovers will happen. We all know that.
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby HixsontoLeVias » Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:52 pm

REACH.....I'd say so...are the "pokes making these type of mistakes game after game after game after game after game after game after game...????
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby Hoop Fan » Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:04 pm

Well, the rb Troy Hambrick is about to lose his job for repeated fumbling. What does that tell you? I guess if something doesn't support your case, its a reach.

Another example. The Redskins are the most penalized team in the NFL, on pace for the most in history. Obviously, Spurrier can't coach. Nevermind the national championships he won at Florida. Apparently, recruiting and continuity does mean something.
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby Hoop Fan » Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:47 pm

Yet another rookie poster. So you guys are the real football and SMU fans huh? The Cowboys have superior talent on the field today which is easily judged at the line of scrimmage. SMU doesn't compete at the line of scrimmage, any fool can see that. If turnovers are so easily corrected by coaching, why didnt Big Bill put a stop to that at halftime? 2 more turnovers since then. Turnovers are caused by physical football, vicous hitting and pressure on the qb most of the time.
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby Big Cat » Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:53 pm

You are correct, Spurrier can't coach-in the NFL>
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby Hoop Fan » Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:03 pm

Oh, I see. What is it, are the rules different? Is technique different? Do passing teams not win in the NFL? Give Spurrier the personnel of the 2000 St. Louis Rams and he would win a Super Bowl too.
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby sportchic » Sun Nov 02, 2003 8:05 pm

In all honesty and in defense coach Bennett and the coaching staffs.. He inherited the team as is. It takes time to get acquainted with each players personality and their level of commitments. It seems like everyone expect the coach to come in and do a 90 degree turn around without any trails and errors. Is that fair? Compare SMU football to the Dallas Cowboys... The cowboys were down for a few years and now they are building the team back up again. It just takes time and support from ALL of their true FANS! Maybe, if all of the fans stop critizing the coaching staff and players, and just leave them alone.... MAYBE... just maybe the 90 degree turn around would happen. I am guilty as well as any one else on the website...No one still have answered my question as to why they did not give Mesquite QB a shot a the QB position. Everyone talks about "The redshirt coming off of Phillips with no experiences and the failure of Tate... and comments like there was no other options." I have friends in Mesquite that are fans of Hodges and said that He should have a shot at the QB position. A postition in which he has brought the 5A Division 1 State Championship home to their town with a 16-0 starting record.
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby PlanoStang » Sun Nov 02, 2003 9:28 pm

What it appears Bennett has done is taken a pretty much level flying airplane encountering turbulence (4-6 wins/season) and made a 90 degree turn. Except this turn was in the verticle plane.

We are now headed towards being a smoking hole in the ground with only the hope that our recruits will hold together as the airplane's elevator when Bennett finally learns he has to pull back on the stick.

ooooooooooh noooooooooo!

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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby ProudPonyPa » Mon Nov 03, 2003 2:13 am

Well, the cowboys have not played a team that has a winning season, yet, so I am still cautiously optimistic.

SportChic: Here is my answer in simpler terms than my previous answer:
Hodges didn't win the championship by himself. I recall a game in Garland's HBJ stadium where Rowlett was the only team (besides in the championship game) that took Mesquite to the 2nd half with the Skeeters on the low end of the score. The Rowlett Coach, first year in 5A Kiff Hardin, put in the 2nd string QB (to give him some practice time) for the 3rd quarter. Nobody scored in the 3rd quarter so it was 17-7 at the start of the 4th quarter. The only way Mesquite won was the Rowlett running back, Andray Downs (now at Rice as a DB) fumbled early in the 4th quarter and our coaching staff later blew a call on 4th down and inches on Mesquite's 37 by calling punt. Marco Martin (now at UT) was probably the reason we didn't try a QB sneak. Mesquite scored with about a minute to go in the game. Not a decisive win over a non-rated, losing record team. Hodges wasn't impressive as a tosser, but he was a good runner. TE is a good position for him. He will be used more in the future, no doubt. There was another good athlete on Mesquite's team. Brandon something. Whatever happened to him?
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby RELATIVE-STANG » Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:11 pm

Hey (Proudponypa)---I gotta chant for ya!!!!----MUSQUITESTANG!----MUSQUITESTANG----MUSQUITESTANG----SM-UUUU-KONW! You gotta get your facts right on the Rowlett game. First of all! I'll give one on That defensive line. Ain't NOBODY GONNA RUN ON THE SKEETER D-LINE!. Yes Marco Martin,Chris Huddler, Kurk Francis and Reggie Green struck fear in all offenses they faced that year. In that game though the facts are: Head lines (The Mesquite News)Sunday October 21, 2001. SKEETERS SURVIVE, CLIMB TO 7-0---Hodges leads MHS past Rowlet with 226 all purpose yards. You can ask a couple of other teams about his arm! Try the ALLEN Eagles(82 yd TD pass, 52yd TD pass,34yd TD pass---all the teams in betwen---last SA Taft(43yd pass to setup TD, 45yd TD pass to Brandon Douglas For the games winning score) You need to get your facts on this guy. Brandon Douglas was moved to reciever for his speed. Defense was where he Lead the team. Some say that he was more of a defensive force than Marco. Hodges was put in control of the offense accually 2000 because he had the arm to burn teams deep and short and over the middle and in the flats and on the 20yd outs. But bottom line with Hodges is that he ran the offense according to the way it was designed and as instructed by Coach Halpin. He spread the ball around to many different players not carring about his own stats but just that it was understood by all of the team that it would take big plays out of all of them in order to win it all. And they did. Now! Neither of the two QB's(Phillips or Meeks) are as good as any of the QB's at the 5A D1 level. Tate is better than both because he has proven that he can compete at a higher level. And if given the chance Hodges would prove that he his better and I agree 100% put him in an offense thats designed for him. Then count up the wins BABY!. Man I am out of breath. My beers gettin hot!. :thumbupcool:
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby ProudPonyPa » Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:15 pm

Facts and opinions, may they never meet. I simply said he doesn't have a D1 arm. He had a 5A football arm and the O-Line to give him time. Where did Brandon Douglas end up. Is he playing still?

Facts are that our offense, when led by the right guy, ate your defense up in the first half. Our coaches made the switch at 3rd quarter and decided not to throw as much to burn time in the second half.

I still maintain that Mark is a better TE than QB, but I don't make dem decisions. Best make your chant between the 40's to let Phil hear it.
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex » Tue Nov 04, 2003 12:05 am

Originally posted by RELATIVE-STANG:
Neither of the two QB's(Phillips or Meeks) are as good as any of the QB's at the 5A D1 level. Tate is better than both because he has proven that he can compete at a higher level.
Remind me never to hire you as a talent scout.

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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby RELATIVE-STANG » Tue Nov 04, 2003 12:30 pm

(ProudPonyPa)-HS football fields and college football fields have the same lenght and width. Yes our O-line was very good. Brandon Douglas is now playing for TexasTech at WR and SS. Let me give a shout out to those EAGLES from Rowlett, they dam sure had on there A game that night and they were kickin some ACE early. I am sure that ya'lls coach didn't expect to get torch by Hodges in the last 4:30 min. of the 4th. Qtr. but thats what play makers can do to ya. Our NT was Kurk Francis. It made good sense not to run at him either. It's ok! if you think TE is right for this player because there's no question he will be a threat there but he will only be 1/3 of a threat at TE as he would be at QB. No tan line on the ring finger coming with this decision. I like my 50yd-line middle row seats better though. Its funny watching all the other knuckleheads holler at Coach-B. This is a public forum. I sure he really cares what is written here. NOT!. And now ole (Peruna_ate_my_rolex)is trying to pile on. Peruna you gotta take the recruiting test! ok!. Here man! ,set down right by me now and lets get started. 1. You gotta be honest with yourself now, no cheating. Alright, lets say that Copland comes to you and says! you get 5 sec. to pick my next QB for this team but you don't get to know any names just HS divisions ie. 5A D1,5A D2,4A D1,4A D2,3A,TAPPS 5A,2A,1A and the other TAPPS. You get the top QB out of any of these levels. which one do you chose! Hum! :whistling: Come on Man! Hurry up! 5-4-3-2-1! buzz, Times up!. The truth is tough to take for some.
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Re: Dallas Cowboys must be poorly coached...

Postby Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex » Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:31 pm

Originally posted by RELATIVE-STANG:
And now ole (Peruna_ate_my_rolex)is trying to pile on. Peruna you gotta take the recruiting test! ok!. Here man! ,set down right by me now and lets get started. 1. You gotta be honest with yourself now, no cheating. Alright, lets say that Copland comes to you and says! you get 5 sec. to pick my next QB for this team but you don't get to know any names just HS divisions ie. 5A D1,5A D2,4A D1,4A D2,3A,TAPPS 5A,2A,1A and the other TAPPS. You get the top QB out of any of these levels. which one do you chose! Hum! :whistling: Come on Man! Hurry up! 5-4-3-2-1! buzz, Times up!. The truth is tough to take for some.
Ok, now first off. If Copeland ever came up to me and said that, I would just look at him like he was nutty as a fruitcake. Your question makes absolutely no sense because the fact of the matter is that quality of talent cannot be assessed merely by the designation of Division I and Division II when it comes to playoff football in Texas. I assume that you are aware that a team that is in the Division I bracket is placed there because their enrollment is the largest of the 3 schools in that district that made the playoffs. So let's just say school A with 1500 students,was 5-5 with a 5-2 district record, school B with 800 students was 7-3 with 7-0 district record and district champ and school C with 1000 was 6-4 with a 6-1 district record. Even though school B was the district champ, they get knocked down to Division II because they were the smaller school and the school that ended up with the worst record,school A, because of it's enrollment figure, ends up in Division I. Does that mean that because they are in Division I that they are clearly better than the other two teams? I don't know about you but the answer would be an obvious no. In other words, what I am saying is that your assertion that Division in UIL football means better quality talent is absurd. Yes,the schools that are in Division I have more,enrollmentwise, than their Division II counterparts but that doesn't necessarily mean that they have more or better talent.

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