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SMUer · Post by **SMUer** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:05 pm

2001-06 Head Coach, University of Miami (team went 60-15)
1995-2000 Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks, University of Miami (team went 51-20)
1995 Quarterbacks, Ohio State (team went 11-2)
1993-94 Defensive Backs, Ohio State (team went 19-5-1)
1990-92 Offensive Coordinator, University of Oklahoma (team went 22-10-2)
1983-89 Offensive Coordinator, Oklahoma State (team went 56-26)
1980-82 Offensive Coordinator, Tulsa (team went 28-8 )
1979 Running Backs/Quarterbacks, Tulsa (team went 6-4)

The guy has only had two sub.500 seasons anywhere (one OKSt another UM) in 28 years of coaching. If he is so terrible, he's one lucky sonofagun.

PonySnob · Post by **PonySnob** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:06 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:He's 60 and he looks 85.

Look at most of the alumni at games......at least he looks there ages!!!

bigdaddy08091 · Post by **bigdaddy08091** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:06 pm

SmooBoy wrote:
bigdaddy08091 wrote:
ebrooks11 wrote:What I find funny is when someone mentioned the possiblity of Butch Davis coming here early in this search everyone thought that would be a brilliant move and he would be a savior. And now there is talk of Larry Coker who took kids that Butch couldnt win a NC with and won one and should have won 2 if it werent for officiating and he would be a bad hire.

Coker is 70 years old .

Uh, your math needs some fine tuning. Larry Coker (born June 23, 1948)

Good Lord, he looks 70. If this is what we have to offer our players, faculty and fans bring on Todd Graham.

jtstang · Post by **jtstang** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:07 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:And Coker was there for the taking the day after you fired Bennett. Mason, Barnett, Bowden, Neuhisal are all light years better choices than Coker too.

Great points all...this just does not add up. Not to mention that he hardly qualifies as the best available coach in America, at least from where I stand. Hoop Fan has just listed 4 better choices.

StallionsModelT · Post by **StallionsModelT** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:08 pm

The hiring of Larry Coker may signal the end of football at SMU. Seriously. I can't believe we are thinking of doing this.

PonyPatrol · Post by **PonyPatrol** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:09 pm

You guys are ridiculous. Only this board would try to argue Turner Gill is a better hire because he took a team to 5-7 and won a MAC coach of the year award.

Coker won a NC and won the NATIONAL coach of the year in '01. You don't just stumble upon honors like this. NO hack of a coach wins at that level and then fools the national media into believing much of it was due to his leadership. This is a guy who was good enough to run the #1 program in the country at one time...he can handle this job.

Forget Rice - how many of the right decisions have they made over the past 50 years, in regards to their football program. Now we trust their decision making in hiring Bailiff over Coker?

Most of you are seriously delusional if you think we can do better....he's not #1 on my dream list, but he insn't far down when speaking in terms of reality.

By the way, here are the last ten NATIONAL coaches of the year:

Peterson, Mack Brown, Tommy Tuberville, Nick Saban, Jim Tressel, Coker, Stoops, Beamer, Bill Snyder and Lloyd Carr.

And you guys think he's the one guy on that list that just fooled the world?? Those are some pretty damn good coaches. He's one of them.

J.T.supporta · Post by **J.T.supporta** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:09 pm

SMUer wrote:2001-06 Head Coach, University of Miami (team went 60-15)
1995-2000 Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks, University of Miami (team went 51-20)
1995 Quarterbacks, Ohio State (team went 11-2)
1993-94 Defensive Backs, Ohio State (team went 19-5-1)
1990-92 Offensive Coordinator, University of Oklahoma (team went 22-10-2)
1983-89 Offensive Coordinator, Oklahoma State (team went 56-26)
1980-82 Offensive Coordinator, Tulsa (team went 28-8 )
1979 Running Backs/Quarterbacks, Tulsa (team went 6-4)

The guy has only had two sub.500 seasons anywhere (one OKSt another UM) in 28 years of coaching. If he is so terrible, he's one lucky sonofagun.

most people on this board dont care about cold hard facts. i.e. STATS, all they see and think about when Cokers name pops up is him driving the program into the ground and not being able to control his "thugs"

StallionsModelT · Post by **StallionsModelT** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:10 pm

Its not that Rice passed on him so much as it is we are taking the guy that Rice passed on. It doesn't exactly send a signal that we are ready to stop playing with kid gloves.

SmooBoy · Post by **SmooBoy** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:10 pm

PonyPatrol wrote:You guys are ridiculous. Only this board would try to argue Turner Gill is a better hire because he took a team to 5-7 and won a MAC coach of the year award.

Coker won a NC and won the NATIONAL coach of the year in '01. You don't just stumble upon honors like this. NO hack of a coach wins at that level and then fools the national media into believing much of it was due to his leadership. This is a guy who was good enough to run the #1 program in the country at one time...he can handle this job.

Forget Rice - how many of the right decisions have they made over the past 50 years, in regards to their football program. Now we trust their decision making in hiring Bailiff over Coker?

Most of you are seriously delusional if you think we can do better....he's not #1 on my dream list, but he insn't far down when speaking in terms of reality.

By the way, here are the last ten NATIONAL coaches of the year:

Peterson, Mack Brown, Tommy Tuberville, Nick Saban, Jim Tressel, Coker, Stoops, Beamer, Bill Snyder and Lloyd Carr.

And you guys think he's the one guy on that list that just fooled the world?? Those are some pretty damn good coaches. He's one of them.

Yep, he's fooled EVERYONE.

And don't forget, most importantly, he looks old.

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:11 pm

Didn't they say interviewed, not hired?

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:11 pm

this guy has been passed over for more jobs than Phil Bennett and that's saying something. The WORST HIRE imaginable.

J.T.supporta · Post by **J.T.supporta** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:12 pm

StallionsModelT wrote:The hiring of Larry Coker may signal the end of football at SMU. Seriously. I can't believe we are thinking of doing this.

look at the cold hard facts man, im not trying to stand up for LC or say i fully want him here but hes a great hire for this program...everywhere hes gone, HES WON...

you can put him in the same convo as Gary Barnett. BOTH proven winners and BOTH "ruined" programs...

Alaric · Post by **Alaric** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:12 pm

Stallion wrote:this guy has been passed over for more jobs than Phil Bennett and that's saying something. The WORST HIRE imaginable.

Can't be, you had reserved that title for Paul Johnson.

Hoop Fan · Post by **Hoop Fan** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:13 pm

PonyPatrol wrote:You guys are ridiculous. Only this board would try to argue Turner Gill is a better hire because he took a team to 5-7 and won a MAC coach of the year award.

Coker won a NC and won the NATIONAL coach of the year in '01. You don't just stumble upon honors like this. NO hack of a coach wins at that level and then fools the national media into believing much of it was due to his leadership. This is a guy who was good enough to run the #1 program in the country at one time...he can handle this job.

Forget Rice - how many of the right decisions have they made over the past 50 years, in regards to their football program. Now we trust their decision making in hiring Bailiff over Coker?

Most of you are seriously delusional if you think we can do better....he's not #1 on my dream list, but he insn't far down when speaking in terms of reality.

By the way, here are the last ten NATIONAL coaches of the year:

Peterson, Mack Brown, Tommy Tuberville, Nick Saban, Jim Tressel, Coker, Stoops, Beamer, Bill Snyder and Lloyd Carr.

And you guys think he's the one guy on that list that just fooled the world?? Those are some pretty damn good coaches. He's one of them.

Ok, you have rationalized Rice. Well done. Now tell us why Tulsa didnt want him. They needed a coach and went to Rice to get him. And promptly won the division again. Coker has a history at Tulsa and in Oklahoma and they didnt want him. We are pathetic if we can't do better than this. Pure fools gold. Turner Gill would be 10 times the better hire for us. Coker only got miami under unusual circumstances. He was a bus driver who lost control of the bus at the end and crashed.

bigdaddy08091 · Post by **bigdaddy08091** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:13 pm

Alaric wrote:
bigdaddy08091 wrote:
Texas Red wrote:Then why the wait for Coker? Should have hired him right off. And it probably won't take that much $$.

It will now!

BD, what makes you think you have to offer all candidates $2 million? Do you know what or if PJ was offered?

We have shown our hand. Every HC available knows what we are offering. They will demand the same to come here and if they don't get it, well we just keep looking. Coker has a nice little gig with ESPN now.