A Conference of Low Expectations

[Stallion]

I have no doubt that all Division 1A games may soon be on the internet or alternative TV mediums. The issue will be revenues from those mediums.

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[Mike Damone]

Its what needs to be done to get us up to level of Vandy and Duke. Whoa! Let's not get ahead of ourselves here and set too lofty of goals.

As much as I hate to say it, it is obvious that TCU should be our role model.

[Southland]

Originally posted by Stallion:
I have no doubt that all Division 1A games may soon be on the internet or alternative TV mediums. The issue will be revenues from those mediums.

More demand from the programmer = more money for the programming. Program providers are going to make a killing in the near future, especially when the agencies push for more profit sharing of VOD... not a problem. :thumbupcool:

Don't get confused with your local cable's video on demand service for movies; ABC, CBS, ABC, FOX, major cable nets will have VOD for their regular schedules. For an ESPN, they could offer up to 50 games in the same time slot, and you choose the game. VOD gives the consumer the ability to create their own schedule, which is why the nets will demand as many programming options as possible.

[Southland]

Originally posted by Mike Damone:
Its what needs to be done to get us up to level of Vandy and Duke. Whoa! Let's not get ahead of ourselves here and set too lofty of goals.

As much as I hate to say it, it is obvious that TCU should be our role model.

Not on the field [deleted]... Duke and Vanderbilt have the ability to redtag any player they want (see Sean Dockery at Duke), it is in reference to recruiting.

[Southland]

Originally posted by Diehard Pony:
Southland,

What specifically does "red tag" mean? Partial qualifiers, Prop 48 kids, or what?

Thanks.

For those that weren't recruited, red tag is the industry term for a coach's autonomy to sign a limited number of recruits regardless of their GPA or test scores. It varies from sport to sport on the number of recruits he can red tag per year.

After the coach uses the red tag, the recruit is automatically processed as an admitted student, given he can meet the NCAA minimum for GPA and test scores by the completion of his diploma. If he fails to meet the minimums, he/she is cut loose.

A well-documented case of a red tag was the one Mike Krzyzewski used on Sean Dockery. Krzyzewski was able to red tag him in his junior year. Hence, Dockery was able to be admitted to a top 8 academic university even though he hadn't passed the NCAA minimum score for the ACT. Dockery, now a soph, passed his ACT towards the end of his 12th grade year, and will probably graduate from Duke.

It sounds similar to Prop 48/partial qualifiers, but it isn't the same. Those players are granted admittance, regardless of whether or not they meet the NCAA minimum. They lose a year of eligibility, which they regain if they earn a degree within 8 semesters.

Claremont McKenna asked to retag me (an NAIA school that had a 3.8 GPA, 1400 SAT avg. for admittance), but I didn’t want to go to there. Fantastic academic school, but there are 5 schools there (CA’s Inland Empire) that combine for 4000 students – it’s like going to a boarding school rather than college. Went to SMU on scholarship instead and loved it. Stanford retagged a teammate of mine as well. He was able to get a Stanford degree with a 3.1 high school GPA and 1030 SAT – lucky SOB.

[SoCal_Pony]

Southland,

You wouldn't happen to work for TVN would you?

[Southland]

Originally posted by SoCal_Pony:
Southland,

You wouldn't happen to work for TVN would you?

no

[Diehard Pony]

Thanks for the explanation Southland.

[QuietManDisciple]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by OldPony:
[QB] I feel sorry for TCU.

My Mustang roots go back to the late 1940's, when my father came back from WWII and attended SMU on the G.I. Bill. I can say with complete confidence that neither he nor I have ever felt sorry for TCU and never will. I do not have a soft spot, warm spot or anything else for the Horned Frogs except the very worst wishes. And I don't understand why any SMU alum, student or fan would give a damn about them.

[SoCal_Pony]

Originally posted by gostangs:
Look - the $200,000 travel delta is B.S. and everyone with a brain knows it - the cost for all their teams flying all over the West is much higher then that.

It seemed light to me but DMN quotes Turner as saying we stand to save $200,000 a year in overall travel costs (not just football) by leaving the WAC, which is consistent with TCU’s number.

To put this in perspective, we spent much more money upgrading our turf, so in the final analysis it probably isn’t that big a deal.

And to answer your question QuietMan, I care about TCU only in the context of how it benefits us. A TCU/SMU game late in the season with championship implications for both teams would be a guaranteed sell-out. This allows us to showcase our superior campus, our superior stadium and our superior city to more people. It also helps with revenues, something we can all use a little more of.

[OldPony]

Quiet Man- I have many friends who are TCU grads. I have always had a warm spot for our old SWC alums especially those of us who were left behind. I don't like the others but it is still hard to pull for Nebraska vs A&M. You are even older than OP so I will yield to your "experience" and say that I don't lose any sleep for TCU nor will I be sending sympathy cards. My point was that they had tried to compete. We haven't. They end up the same place. The only difference is their 0 is on the right side of their record while ours is on the left. If the situation were reversed, we would be crying in our beer, not celebrating getting into a weak conference.

[EastStang]

Our men's soccer team competes in the MVC, so the cost of its travel is lower than WAC travel. However, as I understand it TCU has a baseball team, we don't. 30 players/coaches/trainers to 5 away sites by plane and bus for starters. Football, add probably $200,000 just for that sport. Add in all the other sports and you have some real money. You can't compare our numbers with yours, due to the differences in sports. I suspect that SMU's savings will be tempered by the fact that I believe CUSA has men's swimming and soccer, the WAC did not so that is a net increase in cost. CUSA football, track and women's swimming, soccer, volleyball, track, cross country will be lower cost than the WAC.