You cannot put Coker in same category as

[huskerpony]

you cant put them in the same boat as coker because GB and TB have never won or been to a national championship game...

but all 3 have run a program in the ground however

and Coker has never built a program. GB has. And he didnt exactly run CU down.

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been. Davis got them back on the track and Coker drove the bus for a few years before he crashed and burned. Our bus is in real bad shape, we need more than a bus driver.

I think our bus is actually a pinto stationwagon.

[SMUer]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Coker didn't do anything with Davis' players that they didn't already know how to do or take them anyplace where they hadn't been...except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

[J.T.supporta]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

i doubt...he was the OC before he became HC at the U, most people dont know that...hes been driving that Bus for years...and he did a good job UNTIL MIAMI MOVED TO THE ACC

[QuikSStang]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

i doubt...he was the OC before he became HC at the U, most people dont know that...hes been driving that Bus for years...and he did a good job UNTIL MIAMI MOVED TO THE ACC

very true. Big East = Joke

[J.T.supporta]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

i doubt...he was the OC before he became HC at the U, most people dont know that...hes been driving that Bus for years...and he did a good job UNTIL MIAMI MOVED TO THE ACC

very true. Big East = Joke

YES, it still was the Big Least back then...its getting better now

[QuikSStang]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

i doubt...he was the OC before he became HC at the U, most people dont know that...hes been driving that Bus for years...and he did a good job UNTIL MIAMI MOVED TO THE ACC

very true. Big East = Joke

YES, it still was the Big Least back then...its getting better now

it just sucks that the head of the Bull Crap Series is the head of the Big East

[J.T.supporta]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

i doubt...he was the OC before he became HC at the U, most people dont know that...hes been driving that Bus for years...and he did a good job UNTIL MIAMI MOVED TO THE ACC

very true. Big East = Joke

YES, it still was the Big Least back then...its getting better now

it just sucks that the head of the Bull Crap Series is the head of the Big East

its the SEC this year, not the Big East

[QuikSStang]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

i doubt...he was the OC before he became HC at the U, most people dont know that...hes been driving that Bus for years...and he did a good job UNTIL MIAMI MOVED TO THE ACC

very true. Big East = Joke

YES, it still was the Big Least back then...its getting better now

it just sucks that the head of the Bull Crap Series is the head of the Big East

its the SEC this year, not the Big East

oh! thank god....

[J.T.supporta]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

i doubt...he was the OC before he became HC at the U, most people dont know that...hes been driving that Bus for years...and he did a good job UNTIL MIAMI MOVED TO THE ACC

very true. Big East = Joke

YES, it still was the Big Least back then...its getting better now

it just sucks that the head of the Bull Crap Series is the head of the Big East

its the SEC this year, not the Big East

oh! thank god....

i believe it rotates every year in the big six conferences

[huskerpony]

Even in the ACC, he still went 9-3 the first two years. They really didn't go into the tank until his last year, and with all of the off-the-field stuff going on, multiple deaths on the team, etc., it's hard to win games (and they still had a winning season.)

I'd say a coach whose worst season was still a winning season with a bowl win and was ranked in the top 20 the other 5 seasons and the top 5 in 3 of them has to be good enough for SMU. Again, not my first choice, but what the hell are you people's standards?

[Hoop Fan]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Coker didn't do anything with Davis' players that they didn't already know how to do or take them anyplace where they hadn't been...except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

yeah, nice try. Replacing "Miami" with "Davis' players" changes the message. Miami was not born as a program when Davis took over, or when he hired Coker as an assistant. Miami was already Miami and you know it. Take a longer view. And then tell me why Coker did not sustain that great success in years 3, 4 and 5 of his tenure? Because its hard to sustain what you didn't build and if you don't have what it takes as a head coach you will be found out within 5 years tops in the college game.

[J.T.supporta]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Coker didn't do anything with Davis' players that they didn't already know how to do or take them anyplace where they hadn't been...except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

yeah, nice try. Replacing "Miami" with "Davis' players" changes the message. Miami was not born as a program when Davis took over, or when he hired Coker as an assistant. Miami was already Miami and you know it. Take a longer view. And then tell me why Coker did not sustain that great success in years 3, 4 and 5 of his tenure? Because its hard to sustain what you didn't build.

or it was THE MOVE TO THE ACC

[huskerpony]

Coker didn't take Miami anyplace they didnt already know how to go and had been.

Coker didn't do anything with Davis' players that they didn't already know how to do or take them anyplace where they hadn't been...except a national title game. Twice. I mean, I get what you are saying but don't you check over the things you say?

yeah, nice try. Replacing "Miami" with "Davis' players" changes the message. Miami was not born as a program when Davis took over, or when he hired Coker as an assistant. Miami was already Miami and you know it. Take a longer view. And then tell me why Coker did not sustain that great success in years 3, 4 and 5 of his tenure? Because its hard to sustain what you didn't build.

He went 11-2 in year 3 of his tenure, won the Orange Bowl, and finished #5 in the nation. Years 4 and 5, they moved to a tougher conference and still went 9-3 both years. That sounds pretty successful to me.

[SMUer]

I'm not calling Miami a Northwestern story and I'm not saying I don't understand your general point but when you say that Coker didn't take "Davis' players" anywhere they hadn't been...two national championship games immediately come to mind...something Butch Davis wasn't able to do during his entire six year tenure but something that Erikson and Coker were able to do before and after him...with Miami being Miami as you point out

[huskerpony]

The reason you can't put Larry Coker in the same category as Gary Barnett and Glen Mason is because Larry Coker belongs in the following category:


Coaches who have won a national championship since 1993:

Steve Spurrier
Lloyd Carr
Tom Osborne
Phillip Fulmer
Bobby Bowden
Bob Stoops
Larry Coker
Jim Tressel
Nick Saban
Pete Carroll
Mack Brown
Urban Meyer


Not bad company, in my opinion.