Blog, Get Your Facts Straight

[J.T.supporta]

You are right. His college players are drinking and making mistakes in deciding to drive. That's ninth circle sin-age going on down there, we don't want to bring that kind of behavior over here to taint the good christian environment of SMU.

Yeah...all we do around here is punch out gay stalkers...that's christian, right?

ZING!

[me@smu]

As a diehard Hurricane fan, I celebrated when Coker was named Head Coach in 2001 and I celebrated when he was fired last year. Coker was given the keys to arguably the best team to ever step foot on a college football field, and road them to a NC.

The facts are that Miami football is built in the surrounding communities, you nail down the state of miami and pick and choose a few players from teh outside. Coker went for the big "star" players according to the recruiting websites and let alot of local talent escape. Even worse, Coker worried that his prima donna recruits wouldn't like him recruiting others at their position so he constantly came up empty at skill positions when his one recruit decommitted or didn't pan out.

Coker is and always was a player's coach...but to the point that discipline was gone from teh HC position. No one was accountable for their actions anymore.

[ponyinNC]

You are right. His college players are drinking and making mistakes in deciding to drive. That's ninth circle sin-age going on down there, we don't want to bring that kind of behavior over here to taint the good christian environment of SMU.

Yeah...all we do around here is punch out gay stalkers...that's christian, right?

funny how that one event has changed the landscape of smu football...if JWill plays against UTEP, we most likely win, and we end the season 7-5. We go bowling, and who knows what this season would've brought. Hell, PB would still be coaching.

[J.T.supporta]

As a diehard Hurricane fan, I celebrated when Coker was named Head Coach in 2001 and I celebrated when he was fired last year. Coker was given the keys to arguably the best team to ever step foot on a college football field, and road them to a NC.

The facts are that Miami football is built in the surrounding communities, you nail down the state of miami and pick and choose a few players from teh outside. Coker went for the big "star" players according to the recruiting websites and let alot of local talent escape. Even worse, Coker worried that his prima donna recruits wouldn't like him recruiting others at their position so he constantly came up empty at skill positions when his one recruit decommitted or didn't pan out.

Coker is and always was a player's coach...but to the point that discipline was gone from teh HC position. No one was accountable for their actions anymore.

Cokers downfall with recruiting will always be the QB position. he could never find a great replacement for Ken Dorsey

[SMUer]

Stoops needs to be canned also. Not only did he win his NC with not-his players (Blake's) only to never win one again, but his program is totally out of control. His players aren't getting killed, they're trying to kill:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... acek_x.htm

[EastStang]

Hold on when you get to thuggery and drunken misbehavior, you're heading into Barnett territory. Can we say drunks and Rapists?: Colt Brennan's drunken rape of a coed. Or Hnida's allegations of sexual assault AT PRACTICE not to mention rape by a teammate. Or the four other rapes by Colorado football players under his watch. Or can we stay taking recruits to Nudie Bars. I still like Barnett for his accomplishments at Northwestern and would welcome him as coach. But we're not hiring a choir director, we're hiring a football coach. And Coker is a good one.

[jtstang]

Barnett was not implicated as having any knowledge of any those things. Hard to say Coker had no knowledge of the brawl, since he was there and praised his team for it afterwards.

[SMUer]

Drunk raping is a sin?...but you're drunk...I don't understand...

[SMUer]

Barnett was not implicated as having any knowledge of any those things. Hard to say Coker had no knowledge of the brawl, since he was there and praised his team for it afterwards.

Are we really going to crucify a guy for a terrible PR spin attempt, we should be immune to that by now:

(I'm paraphrasing)

[Reporter] Coach Coach! You were criticized on EPSN for yelling "all out" on your blitzes, is that something you normally do?

[Bennett] Yeah, that's something we normally do, something we've always done. We do that from time to time and we'll probably use that again.

[EastStang]

You're right Barnett wasn't aware, but they were his players. And if you recall after Hnida screamed rape, he wasn't very supportive of her claims, now was he? In fact he did the opposite. Again, I'd take either coach in a heartbeat.

[jtstang]

You're right Barnett wasn't aware, but they were his players. And if you recall after Hnida screamed rape, he wasn't very supportive of her claims, now was he? In fact he did the opposite. Again, I'd take either coach in a heartbeat.

What was he supposed to say? "I agree with her that she was raped"? Kinda puts due process on hold for purposes of appearing sympathetic now doesn't it?

[EastStang]

And what was Coker supposed to say after the bench clearing brawl? Lots of double standards out there. Coker is supposed to be a player's coach, Barnett's supposed to be one scary SOB. Different coaches, different styles, they're both good. Let's just hire one of them, soon!!!

[jtstang]

And what was Coker supposed to say after the bench clearing brawl?

Something other than:

"I think that it will affect the image of our program greatly, but in a positive way," he said. "I think that when they see the video and they see how it was handled they will be impressed with our players." Additionally, he was quoted in the Miami Herald as saying "I think you've got a lot of players from their team frustrated because they're not here, and maybe were not recruited."

might've been a good start.

[EastStang]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/02/sports/ncaafootball/02colorado.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/02/19/colorado.football/index.html

After Ms. Hnida said, she was raped. "You know she was a lousy kicker, I'm glad she's gone." $780,000 slush fund (so that's where Fran learned the trick) and an ASSISTANT COACH who was assaulting and pimping out female trainers. Welcome to Gary Barnett's Colorado team. But Gary knew none of that was going on. Just like our coach never knew that his star players were being paid until David Stanley let him know. Again, Barnett's still my first choice, but there are issues.

[jtstang]

East, I think you may be missing my point. I don't care it Barnett is hired or not at this point. My thing is that if Coker is interveiwable, so is Barnett. And so is Bowden and Fran and Slick Rick and any number of others who have been excluded to this point because of "off-field" issues.